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    P1keys pitch up at Marlborough College

    Travellers invade playing fields of £30,000-per-year Marlborough College where Kate Middleton played hockey




    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz23q8Mio6o



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    Hoho.

    That'll go down like a lead balloon.


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    Hey!...that's only a few miles for where I live


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    There is an 'official' travellers' camp at the end of my road.

    Keeps the flies out of my house anyway.


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    In a way, this is not a bad thing.

    What I mean is, the only way something "might" ever be done about this sort of thing, is if it affects those in power, the "elite" and not just us peasants who should know our place, who are denounced as "bar room politics" if we dare complain about things like crime and give our suggestions.

    Just as you can be damned sure the NHS would suddenly be top class if everyone was forced to use it, and just as the bog standard comprehensive would be history within days if private education was banned..................then the only way anything would ever be done would be if a problem ended up on THEIR back yard.

    I suggest some Romanian squatters in the dorm at Eton, a huge asylum seeker hostel in Henley Upon Thames and some chavs drinking white lightening hanging around Downing Street at 2am every night


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    Very true.

    The wealthy are able to insulate themselves from such unpleasant realities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iani View Post
    In a way, this is not a bad thing.

    What I mean is, the only way something "might" ever be done about this sort of thing, is if it affects those in power, the "elite" and not just us peasants who should know our place, who are denounced as "bar room politics" if we dare complain about things like crime and give our suggestions.

    Just as you can be damned sure the NHS would suddenly be top class if everyone was forced to use it, and just as the bog standard comprehensive would be history within days if private education was banned..................then the only way anything would ever be done would be if a problem ended up on THEIR back yard.

    I suggest some Romanian squatters in the dorm at Eton, a huge asylum seeker hostel in Henley Upon Thames and some chavs drinking white lightening hanging around Downing Street at 2am every night
    Interesting thought Iani - I remember the Pikey Filth being at Eton College some years ago

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2016075.stm

    The one area in this neck of the woods where they never, ever go is Crown Estate land - I wonder why


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    I am very happy about this I would even point them in the direction of leafy suburbs. Like someone has said if they do this the government might do something about it. And I hope the illegals and europeans go with them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iani View Post
    In a way, this is not a bad thing.

    What I mean is, the only way something "might" ever be done about this sort of thing, is if it affects those in power, the "elite" and not just us peasants who should know our place, who are denounced as "bar room politics" if we dare complain about things like crime and give our suggestions.

    Just as you can be damned sure the NHS would suddenly be top class if everyone was forced to use it, and just as the bog standard comprehensive would be history within days if private education was banned..................then the only way anything would ever be done would be if a problem ended up on THEIR back yard.

    I suggest some Romanian squatters in the dorm at Eton, a huge asylum seeker hostel in Henley Upon Thames and some chavs drinking white lightening hanging around Downing Street at 2am every night
    In the manner of privately funded health and education, we could have both a top class education system and a top class NHS but we aren't prepared to pay more in taxes to fund it. Are we?

    Who is willing to pay more in tax to fund the improvements?

    Oh. And by the way, I thought that the Comprehensive system was supposed to be the answer to our education issues?


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    Its easy lastlid. CONSERVATIVES = PRIVATISATION.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    In the manner of privately funded health and education, we could have both a top class education system and a top class NHS but we aren't prepared to pay more in taxes to fund it. Are we?

    Who is willing to pay more in tax to fund the improvements?

    Oh. And by the way, I thought that the Comprehensive system was supposed to be the answer to our education issues?
    Don't know about you Lastlid but since this lot came to power I am paying more Tax. I now find myself in the 40% bracket which wouldn't be so bad if it was being spent on worthwhile things like the NHS and caring for the elderly. Instead I'm paying for the mistakes of Bankers and financial mismanagement by half the governments of the EU as well as the upkeep of tens of thousands of freeloaders who turn up on our doorstep from these very same countries


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    Don't know about you Lastlid but since this lot came to power I am paying more Tax. I now find myself in the 40% bracket which wouldn't be so bad if it was being spent on worthwhile things like the NHS and caring for the elderly. Instead I'm paying for the mistakes of Bankers and financial mismanagement by half the governments of the EU as well as the upkeep of tens of thousands of freeloaders who turn up on our doorstep from these very same countries
    Fortunately for me I am paying less tax. I used to be in a situation a bit like yourself taxwise but pay less tax now I am in the Isle of Man.

    I was just saying that any improvements would have to be funded by more money. I would hazard a guess that would mean more taxes. I have sampled both the NHS and the private sector and both state schooling and private schooling and in the case of the private version of both, had to pay significantly more money, one way or another. The money has to come from somwhere to raise the standards in state schools and hospitals ( not sure if this government has misspent - thats for another debate). It obviously predates the last two governments.

    I dont really blame one government or another. My outlay has been over a long decade. I havent got a clue who was in power when my daughter went to a private school. Just looked it up (Major and Blair taking a quick look).

    Personally I favour the old grammar school system. As a person that has spent a significant amount of time teaching during my career and put two kids through their education, the grammar system wins hands down. My son goes to the local grammar school.


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    The comprehensive system was a disaster

    Mixing bright with riff raff didn't work...much talent went down the drain...with mixed (abilities) marriages to boot. Very unsatisfactory

    Nothing wrong with private education...in fact Mr Leahy is bringing back grammar schools ..lovely...


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    I agree !!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    The comprehensive system was a disaster

    Mixing bright with riff raff didn't work...much talent went down the drain...with mixed (abilities) marriages to boot. Very unsatisfactory

    Nothing wrong with private education...in fact Mr Leahy is bringing back grammar schools ..lovely...
    Politics aside. Yes the grammar system is still there in Trafford, Manchester. Never went away. Its a complete success.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    The comprehensive system was a disaster

    Mixing bright with riff raff didn't work...much talent went down the drain...with mixed (abilities) marriages to boot. Very unsatisfactory

    Nothing wrong with private education...in fact Mr Leahy is bringing back grammar schools ..lovely...
    The whole problem with the Comprehensive system is the mixed ability teaching requirement that suits nobody in the class.


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    Have always been in favour of the Grammar school system. The comprehensive system will never work it simply holds the bright kids back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    Have always been in favour of the Grammar school system. The comprehensive system will never work it simply holds the bright kids back.


    And the slow kids get left behind. And those in the middle learn more slowly. Nobody wins. And the teacher is run ragged if they are trying their best to satisfy everyone.


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    I don't remember having to put up with gypsy kids and those with Autism in our Grammar School either...certainly none with leg tags to disturb Latin lessons.


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    Schooling now compared to our day Graham is worlds apart.

    I wouldn't mind some years being given back but, I certainly wouldn't fancy having to go back to school under these conditions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Politics aside. Yes the grammar system is still there in Trafford, Manchester. Never went away. Its a complete success.
    There was me thinking to gain entry into a state funded grammar school, one had to pass the eleven plus and that ended in 71 ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    Don't know about you Lastlid but since this lot came to power I am paying more Tax. I now find myself in the 40% bracket which wouldn't be so bad if it was being spent on worthwhile things like the NHS and caring for the elderly. Instead I'm paying for the mistakes of Bankers and financial mismanagement by half the governments of the EU as well as the upkeep of tens of thousands of freeloaders who turn up on our doorstep from these very same countries
    Welcome to the club (40%) ...thanks to successive inept goverments, the club is getting bigger...it definitely focuses your mind on ways to avoid paying it...still many products out there to help you out


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    Tax.

    Must move house again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Nothing wrong with private education...in fact Mr Leahy is bringing back grammar schools ..lovely...
    it's against the law for new gramma schools to open, thou i think what your talking about is a loop hole some schools are trying to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    There was me thinking to gain entry into a state funded grammar school, one had to pass the eleven plus and that ended in 71 ?
    Wrong. Not in Trafford. The grammar system was never stopped. Not sure if it was down to a loophole or if so it was never closed. I seem to remember it was people power that kept them open. And there are some other places in the country where it is still retained.

    Actually, the eleven plus was fazed out eventually in Trafford but there still is an entrance exam. It is still selective.

    My daughter took the 11 plus in Trafford in the early 90's, passed it and got a place at the local grammar school but we decided to send her to a private school instead.

    My son is at Stretford Grammar right now and there is Altrincham Grammar for Girls and Altrincham Grammar for Boys, Sale Grammar and Urmston Grammar (where Joe Bloggs used to live so I seem to recall him saying?). All state funded grammar schools. Many folk move to Tarfford for that reason or bus their kids in to fill up the empty seats not filled by the locals. Very popular schools.

    See the attached list of state funded grammar schools.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ols_in_England


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    Grammar school: Kent County Council backs expansion plan


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17534910


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Urmston Grammar (where Joe Bloggs used to live evidently?). All state funded grammar schools. Many folk move to Tarfford for that reason or bus their kids in to fill up the empty seats not filled by the locals. Very popular schools.
    I was born in Urmston, but never lived there, always on the other side of the canal

    i think the presents laws state no new grammar schools can open, but some schools are getting around this by opening annexes.
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Many folk move to Tarfford for that reason or bus their kids in to fill up the empty seats not filled by the locals. Very popular schools.
    A lot of Asian folk, from outside Trafford, have spotted this and ship them in from outside the borough and fill up any of the empty spaces (provided they pass the entrance exam of course).

    Why are their empty places initially, you might ask? Because they stick to a rigid pass mark and don't just fill up regardless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    I was born in Urmston, but never lived there, always on the other side of the canal

    i think the presents laws state no new grammar schools can open, but some schools are getting around this by opening annexes.
    Looks like they even have them in Liverpool....


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    Calday Grange Grammar School, West Kirby (boys)
    St Anselm's College, Birkenhead (boys)
    Upton Hall School FCJ, Upton (girls)
    West Kirby Grammar School, West Kirby (girls)
    Wirral Grammar School for Boys, Bebington (boys)
    Wirral Grammar School for Girls, Bebington (girls)


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    You do have private education in this country. I do agree with bringing back grammer schools and the 11+ as long as the grammer schools are free. What gwapito is talking about is one law for the rich and one for the poor which I totally disagree with, And why do we need to bring foreign students here? Why not bring our own through the system? It all boils down to money that is why this country is in a mess. Greed.


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