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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    H&S at work well like graham says , comen sense is all we need, H&S has gone to far just like europe putting its two penny worth into everything that is brittish, dont get me wrong you have to be safe in any work you do but there is the right way and there is there way, been there done it
    Steve. LOL. I was sympathising with your original post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    That's what I was worrying about !

    Bye !
    You are talking to the wrong person on this one . You aren't in Pinas now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Steve. LOL. I was sympathising with your original post.
    thanks lastlid, but we all get stress sometime weather its work of home or pleasure, but i have entered into H&S thread, and in my line of work it is a pain, comen sense is all that is requied, yes some people have not got any,


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    You are talking to the wrong person on this one . You aren't in Pinas now.
    What the hell is that supposed to mean ?


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    steve wool is leaving the building, ups i mean this thread, trouble brewing in them there hills


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    Well, this new legislation will sort out the lead swingers and basic layabouts....goodness we got enough of those at our place.

    Like Graham rightly said...'' if ya cant stand the heat get outta the kitchen''

    As for stress...im lucky enough never to have been afflicted by it


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    steve wool is leaving the building, ups i mean this thread, trouble brewing in them there hills
    No problem.

    If a person can't participate in a discussion without throwing his toys out of the pram....on IGNORE.

    No loss to me.


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    Basically, all that is being said is that it is not on for an employer to abuse his / her work force in pursuit of profit. That means not exposing employees to hazards, including occupational stress. Occupational stress as a hazard is slowly being recognised. And rightly so.

    HSE is a good thing. It is designed to protect the workforce from unscrupulous employers.

    Dont you think that is a good thing Graham?

    HSE isn't perfect, but then what is? It does need refining, but truly where would we be without it. Take it away and what have you got.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    No problem.

    If a person can't participate in a discussion without throwing his toys out of the pram....on IGNORE.

    No loss to me.
    Graham. You are no loss to me. I don't need to agree with everything you say. Sorry. I am not one of your yes men.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Graham. You are no loss to me. I don't need to agree with everything you say. Sorry. I am not one of your yes men.
    I bet your wife loves you being on here morning noon and night....certainly gives her a break


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    I bet your wife loves you being on here morning noon and night....certainly gives her a break
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    I have taken his intended insult as a compliment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
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    I have taken his intended insult as a compliment.
    Neither an insult or a compliment. Simply saying that I don't need to agree with you just for the sake of it. You talk a lot of nonsense at times, Graham, but you need someone to tell you that from time to time.

    Anybody that comes in with a different slant seems to get the treatment from you. I have seen a few folk come on here like a breath of fresh air but because they don't see eye to eye with your particular way of thinking, you go after them like a rabid dog.

    Try and allow some other opinion to permeate the forum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Neither an insult or a compliment. Simply saying that I don't need to agree with you just for the sake of it. You talk a lot of nonsense at times, Graham, but you need someone to tell you that from time to time.

    Anybody that comes in with a different slant seems to get the treatment from you. I have seen a few folk come on here like a breath of fresh air but because they don't see eye to eye with your particular way of thinking, you go after them like a rabid dog.

    Try and allow some other opinion to permeate the forum.
    You have just described yourself

    I dont recollect Graham sending out abusive private messages like yourself.


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    Your entitled to your opinion Lastlid like everyone else on here .


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    You talk a lot of nonsense at times, Lastlid.You need someone to tell you that from time to time.

    Anybody that comes in with a different slant seems to get the treatment from you. I have seen a few folk come on here like a breath of fresh air but because they don't see eye to eye with your particular way of thinking, you go after them like a rabid dog.

    Try and allow some other opinion to permeate the forum.


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    There is no call for that gwapito. You expect people to agree with your tunnel vision. Try backing away from the mirror occasionaly and look at the bigger picture of what is going on. You should try helping a few people instead of bragging about what you have got. Obviously everyone has different opinions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Neither an insult or a compliment. Simply saying that I don't need to agree with you just for the sake of it. You talk a lot of nonsense at times, Graham, but you need someone to tell you that from time to time.

    Anybody that comes in with a different slant seems to get the treatment from you. I have seen a few folk come on here like a breath of fresh air but because they don't see eye to eye with your particular way of thinking, you go after them like a rabid dog.

    Try and allow some other opinion to permeate the forum.
    Where did I ask you (or anyone else) to agree with me ? PROOF please.

    Man you are seriously deluded.

    Anyone with half a brain would realise that many of my posts are 'tongue in cheek' and expressed in a friendly and good-humoured fashion.

    Thankfully I won't be bothering to read any more of your torrent of copy and pastes, as I will admit to not suffering fools gladly.

    Your 'rabid dog' analogy is particularly insulting...but quite honestly, just pathetic.

    Sorry, but I haven't got time go over any personal problems you may have, because your peculiar outbursts on here lately point towards something like that.

    I will now put this whole thread on 'ignore' because I am no longer a schoolboy.


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    I can't recall many times during my membership here when moderation on etiquette has been required.

    Everyones input to threads is valued for it's content and I'd like to think we can all respect the views of others, even if we don’t agree with them.

    There's nothing wrong to disagree with others, as long as we can encourage debate about the topic at hand rather than letting it deteriorate into personal insults.

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    i sometimes feel i am not as clever as many on here, and like many more i like to have a laugh too,sometimes we get upset and it takes our friends on here to calm us down, i like to think i get on with everyone, dont agree with everyone though, but it does make me smile and laugh sometimes how things can suddenly go BANG, just my thoughts on all matters dont mean to offend anyone


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    Quote Originally Posted by sars_notd_virus View Post
    cant complain,...more work more money and it pays the bill....no stress just a big smile whenever i see my payslip
    even my husband did, even on Sunday he's working seeing his payslip is more exciting every week but the fact he got more money the bigger the tax he paid, last week they deducted on his salary amounting £480 for his tax... Take note, he's on weekly wages that's why he's tax also in a weekly basis... that's what stress for him...


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    This thread has shown, if nothing else, that stress – the feeling of being under too much mental / emotional pressure, usually related to work, relationships and/or money problems – does vary between individuals.

    Of course health and safety regulations and occupational health services should help. A visit to your GP should also be considered – blood pressure may be raised with no symptoms other than stress which is contributing to it.

    Relationships may be for real; sometimes long distance with people we have met; sometimes purely on the internet such as the majority of members on this forum. They can certainly be stressful, but hopefully soon be resolved, whether related to misunderstandings or visa applications.

    Money problems can be helped by forming priorities with careful budgeting, but even insolvency is not the end of the world. Health is a higher priority.



    The Lancet article quoted ( http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...994-5/fulltext )
    should be put in context. Nearly 50 authors carried out a meta-analysis ( meaning they looked at other researchers’ work ). This confirmed what common sense would have suggested. Workplace stress appears to slightly increase the chance of heart attacks - if the stress could be eliminated, a few might be prevented. Of far more importance are other “ lifestyle choices “ , perhaps linked to stress, especially smoking, inactivity, obesity, and drinking excess alcohol.

    It’s worth pointing out that to read the article in full you would need to pay “ 31.5 US dollars “ . This benefits the Lancet, not the research workers. Research - financed by taxpayers or charities - SHOULD be available free and online ; from next year the UK government intends that it will. This should thereby reduce stress and misunderstanding caused by inability to read the original articles!

    It’s impossible to do more - on a forum such as this - than to give general advice such as may be found here :- http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/stress-...ng-stress.aspx ,
    linked to http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/stress-...ce-stress.aspx


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Alan View Post
    This thread has shown, if nothing else, that stress – the feeling of being under too much mental / emotional pressure, usually related to work, relationships and/or money problems – does vary between individuals.

    Of course health and safety regulations and occupational health services should help. A visit to your GP should also be considered – blood pressure may be raised with no symptoms other than stress which is contributing to it.

    Relationships may be for real; sometimes long distance with people we have met; sometimes purely on the internet such as the majority of members on this forum. They can certainly be stressful, but hopefully soon be resolved, whether related to misunderstandings or visa applications.

    Money problems can be helped by forming priorities with careful budgeting, but even insolvency is not the end of the world. Health is a higher priority.



    The Lancet article quoted ( http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...994-5/fulltext )
    should be put in context. Nearly 50 authors carried out a meta-analysis ( meaning they looked at other researchers’ work ). This confirmed what common sense would have suggested. Workplace stress appears to slightly increase the chance of heart attacks - if the stress could be eliminated, it might prevent a few of these. Of far more importance are other “ lifestyle choices “ , perhaps linked to stress, especially smoking, inactivity, obesity, and drinking excess alcohol.

    It’s worth pointing out that to read the article in full you would need to pay “ 31.5 US dollars “ . This benefits the Lancet, not the research workers. Research - financed by taxpayers or charities - SHOULD be available free and online ; from next year the UK government intends that it will. This should thereby reduce stress and misunderstanding caused by inability to read the original articles !

    It’s impossible to do more - on a forum such as this - than to give general advice such as may be found here :- http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/stress-...ng-stress.aspx ,
    linked to http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/stress-...ce-stress.aspx
    I will stick to what I know and say that many companies now risk assess for stress as a hazard at work. This is an ongoing and developing thing as we speak. They do so for a range of reasons, mainly because they have to. And they have to because of the many instances of stress related illness in the workplace. One of my many roles involved the compilation of risk assessments in the workplace for what is a top 500 company in the world. They take it very seriously. And so do many other companies. It doesnt make financial sense to them to ignore it.

    For those companies that aren't risk assessing for stress then they ought to be, lest they want to invite a claim against themselves or lose a portion of their workforce for significant periods of time.


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    Back to the thread and potentially affecting some folk on here. It is a fair possibility that the f00k ups that are happening in the embassy in Manila with visas are down to work related stress. People make mistakes under such circumstances. We have, to a degree, assumed negligence or ineptitude but there is a third valid possibility - understaffing is a root cause.


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    wont be long before, injurylawers for you will get onto this and lots of money will be made for them and little for the person claiming stress, best policy for me is to see my Emma smile and knowing life with her is great,


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    wont be long before, injurylawers for you will get onto this and lots of money will be made for them and little for the person claiming stress, best policy for me is to see my Emma smile and knowing life with her is great,
    Steve. They already have. Its been happening for a while now. Of course one would have to pick a better lawyer than Injurylawyers foru or the like. There are some great lawyers in Aberdeen that have ripped local employers to shreds over injury claims, where they have been wilfully negligent. Most made their name over the Piper Alpha catastrophe, the back of which both sensible and in some cases not so sensible HSE was implemented in the UK oil industry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Neither an insult or a compliment. Simply saying that I don't need to agree with you just for the sake of it. You talk a lot of nonsense at times, Graham, but you need someone to tell you that from time to time.

    Anybody that comes in with a different slant seems to get the treatment from you. I have seen a few folk come on here like a breath of fresh air but because they don't see eye to eye with your particular way of thinking, you go after them like a rabid dog.

    Try and allow some other opinion to permeate the forum.
    Andy.....this is the post you disliked .....as you can see, it was Lastlid's creation...all I did was change the name from Graham to Lastlid.

    Sorry for having to spell it out...obviously im on a
    different wavelength to a few others here.

    Btw...whoever just awarded me a reputation, thank you very much


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Your entitled to your opinion Lastlid like everyone else on here .
    This was the remark you gave to Lastlid making the same post as I on # 65


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    This was the remark you gave to Lastlid making the same post as I on # 65
    Oops...sorry, I mean't #45


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