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    Drugs: let’s be softer on our youngsters

    A very sensible perspective from a father

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...oungsters.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neu75 View Post
    A very sensible perspective from a father

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...oungsters.html
    "After all, if every young man who had dabbled with drugs had felt the fullest penalty of the law, then David Cameron would not be prime minister nor Barack Obama US president."

    How very true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    "After all, if every young man who had dabbled with drugs had felt the fullest penalty of the law, then David Cameron would not be prime minister nor Barack Obama US president."

    How very true.
    all the more reasons why there should be no changes and make the laws softer.

    lets see if he says its was a sensible approach when his kids become addicts
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    all the more reasons why there should be no changes and make the laws softer.

    lets see if he says its was a sensible approach when his kids become addicts
    I think you'll find that most kids use "recreational" drugs and only a fraction become addicts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neu75 View Post
    I think you'll find that most kids use "recreational" drugs and only a fraction become addicts.
    spend some time in any A&E see how many 'recreational' drug takers turn up there out of their heads

    my misses has to deal with them, many are abusive, violent. who wants to try and treat 'people' like that ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    spend some time in any A&E see how many 'recreational' drug takers turn up there out of their heads

    my misses has to deal with them, many are abusive, violent. who wants to try and treat 'people' like that ???
    I know. You are right Joe. ( Though same for alcohol related incidents ).

    Its a big problem. But its how to deal with it that is the problem. Society in Britain hasn't found a way yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    spend some time in any A&E see how many 'recreational' drug takers turn up there out of their heads

    my misses has to deal with them, many are abusive, violent. who wants to try and treat 'people' like that ???
    Still think Alcohol is the problem. At least the nurses I know have said this.


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    I am dead against drug abuse. But feel that the focus should be on those that sell them in the first place. Those that advocate "stringing up" the users / abusers forget that they could so easily have a member of their family that is either unlucky enough or indeed foolishly enough to consume them.

    Anyway, the prisons are full and drug abuse is a wider issue than we think. A different approach is needed for that reason alone.


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    its not so much the street seller, they themselves are the lower end of the chain (victims users)
    go further up you may be surprised who you find up there at the top

    and thats why it continues


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    its not so much the street seller, they themselves are the lower end of the chain (victims users)
    go further up you may be surprised who you find up there at the top

    and thats why it continues
    Yes. There are no social boundaries when it comes to drugs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    its not so much the street seller, they themselves are the lower end of the chain (victims users)
    go further up you may be surprised who you find up there at the top

    and thats why it continues
    Top of the chain being who else but ferrari drivers

    As for going soft on the drug taking kids...spare a thought for the victims of some of these drug taking kids....you only gotta look at the papers...houses getting broken into...the elderly getting mugged and sometimes .....string them up I say


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Top of the chain being who else but ferrari drivers

    As for going soft on the drug taking kids...spare a thought for the victims of some of these drug taking kids....you only gotta look at the papers...houses getting broken into...the elderly getting mugged and sometimes .....string them up I say
    ok leave them at the top string up the young uns , then those at the top can start all over again


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Top of the chain being who else but ferrari drivers

    As for going soft on the drug taking kids...spare a thought for the victims of some of these drug taking kids....you only gotta look at the papers...houses getting broken into...the elderly getting mugged and sometimes .....string them up I say
    not all drug taking kids are house breaking, and mugging the elderly,, who is it has that wide brush


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    not all drug taking kids are house breaking, and mugging the elderly,, who is it has that wide brush


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    not all drug taking kids are house breaking, and mugging the elderly,, who is it has that wide brush
    Some of you may change your tune when one of your kids have been beaten black and blue all for the sake of his dinner money etc...all these losers need locking up...look at that story reported last week when that girl was 20 p short of her bus fare...some drug addled teenage raped and beat her beyond recognition...that scum was caged for 22 years yehey!..commonsense at last from our courts.

    They should all hang Imagine...

    ' what am I on'....nowt Lastlid....never have, never will. Same for alcohol.

    Perhaps having alcoholism and barbiturate abuse in my crazy family helped put me off those.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Some of you may change your tune when one of your kids have been beaten black and blue all for the sake of his dinner money etc...all these losers need locking up...look at that story reported last week when that girl was 20 p short of her bus fare...some drug addled teenage raped and beat her beyond recognition...that scum was caged for 22 years yehey!..commonsense at last from our courts.

    They should all hang Imagine...

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    and gWaPito you may change your tune if one of your kids become addicted to drugs, after all they all have a mother and father, maybe brothers and sisters
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    So let's be tougher on the dealers and execute them it would free up prison space and reduce the supply of drugs on the street


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    So let's be tougher on the dealers and execute them it would free up prison space and reduce the supply of drugs on the street
    You are right. There is not an easy solution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    So let's be tougher on the dealers and execute them it would free up prison space and reduce the supply of drugs on the street
    lets make sure its the dealers at the top, for all we know they might be made up of mp's millionairs,influential persons, after all who finances it all, it sure aint the little man


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    lets make sure its the dealers at the top, for all we know they might be made up of mp's millionairs,influential persons, after all who finances it all, it sure aint the little man
    I know that in Aberdeen, the police find it hard to catch the serious dealers. They can be very elusive. Probably the same across the country. You would be amazed at where drugs are being sold through the city. And places in the shire too.


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    iv had druggies (cannabis users ) tell that many of their friends in the same game , when caught with x amount, then comes court day, the amount read out is much less than was confiscated but obviously they dont complain at the inaccuracies because a lighter sentance can be a bennefit,

    any guesses what happened to the rest


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    iv had druggies (cannabis users ) tell that many of their friends in the same game , when caught with x amount, then comes court day, the amount read out is much less than was confiscated but obviously they dont complain at the inaccuracies because a lighter sentance can be a bennefit,

    any guesses what happened to the rest
    Well. I know what you mean. Funny but not funny.

    Its all a bigger problem than some people know. If we locked em all up or shot them then.....we would cut the population in half and perhaps the government wouldnt be so bothered about our filipina's visas


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Well. I know what you mean. Funny but not funny.

    Its all a bigger problem than some people know. If we locked em all up or shot them then.....we would cut the population in half and perhaps the government wouldnt be so bothered about our filipina's visas
    yeah but who's gonna replace government while there doing time perhaps they can work from the cell


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    yeah but who's gonna replace government while there doing time perhaps they can work from the cell


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    yeah but who's gonna replace government while there doing time perhaps they can work from the cell
    Ah ... now ... that reminds me

    Did you hear about the lonely prisoner?
    He's in his cell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Well. I know what you mean. Funny but not funny.

    Its all a bigger problem than some people know. If we locked em all up or shot them then.....we would cut the population in half and perhaps the government wouldnt be so bothered about our filipina's visas
    Steady on....half the population

    The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from

    I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Steady on....half the population

    The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from

    I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid
    you be surprised who around you quietly smoke their weed, you'd never know it


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Steady on....half the population

    The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from

    I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid
    Yes, I was exaggerating when I said half.

    Its everywhere. You just dont know it. Take a closer look some day and I am sure you will find that it goes on right under your nose, in your own back yard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Steady on....half the population

    The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from

    I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid

    What is it that you smoke? Must be good stuff.

    I don't think there are many places in the country where there isn't significant drug abuse. I would be very surprised if your neighbourhood is the exception. Have a look in your local paper. You will see many drug related stories each week. What this means is that it exists. What it doesn't mean is that it is being halted. What the public tends to be aware of is just the tip of a larger iceberg.

    Drug abuse knows no geographical or social boundaries.


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    The problem is that there is a big demand for most of these drugs
    Movie stars, catwalk models, music industry, media types, and the most of the square mile seem to operate on cocaine
    I dont think the dealers are forcing anyone to buy their items and if anything they cant supply enough of it

    I wonder when they are going to win this WAR ON DRUGS anyway - not in my lifetime thats for sure


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