A very sensible perspective from a father
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...oungsters.html
A very sensible perspective from a father
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...oungsters.html
"After all, if every young man who had dabbled with drugs had felt the fullest penalty of the law, then David Cameron would not be prime minister nor Barack Obama US president."Originally Posted by Neu75
How very true.
I am dead against drug abuse. But feel that the focus should be on those that sell them in the first place. Those that advocate "stringing up" the users / abusers forget that they could so easily have a member of their family that is either unlucky enough or indeed foolishly enough to consume them.
Anyway, the prisons are full and drug abuse is a wider issue than we think. A different approach is needed for that reason alone.
its not so much the street seller, they themselves are the lower end of the chain (victims users)
go further up you may be surprised who you find up there at the top
and thats why it continues
Yes. There are no social boundaries when it comes to drugs.its not so much the street seller, they themselves are the lower end of the chain (victims users)
go further up you may be surprised who you find up there at the top
and thats why it continues
So let's be tougher on the dealers and execute them it would free up prison space and reduce the supply of drugs on the street
You are right. There is not an easy solution.
lets make sure its the dealers at the top, for all we know they might be made up of mp's millionairs,influential persons, after all who finances it all, it sure aint the little man
I know that in Aberdeen, the police find it hard to catch the serious dealers. They can be very elusive. Probably the same across the country. You would be amazed at where drugs are being sold through the city. And places in the shire too.
iv had druggies (cannabis users ) tell that many of their friends in the same game , when caught with x amount, then comes court day, the amount read out is much less than was confiscatedbut obviously they dont complain at the inaccuracies because a lighter sentance can be a bennefit,
any guesses what happened to the rest
Well. I know what you mean. Funny but not funny.iv had druggies (cannabis users ) tell that many of their friends in the same game , when caught with x amount, then comes court day, the amount read out is much less than was confiscated
any guesses what happened to the rest
Its all a bigger problem than some people know. If we locked em all up or shot them then.....we would cut the population in half and perhaps the government wouldnt be so bothered about our filipina's visas
yeah but who's gonna replace government while there doing timeWell. I know what you mean. Funny but not funny.
Its all a bigger problem than some people know. If we locked em all up or shot them then.....we would cut the population in half and perhaps the government wouldnt be so bothered about our filipina's visasperhaps they can work from the cell
yeah but who's gonna replace government while there doing time
Ah ... now ... that reminds meyeah but who's gonna replace government while there doing time
Did you hear about the lonely prisoner?
He's in his cell.
all the more reasons why there should be no changes and make the laws softer.
lets see if he says its was a sensible approach when his kids become addicts
Top of the chain being who else but ferrari driversits not so much the street seller, they themselves are the lower end of the chain (victims users)
go further up you may be surprised who you find up there at the top
and thats why it continues
As for going soft on the drug taking kids...spare a thought for the victims of some of these drug taking kids....you only gotta look at the papers...houses getting broken into...the elderly getting mugged and sometimes .....string them up I say
Steady on....half the populationWell. I know what you mean. Funny but not funny.
Its all a bigger problem than some people know. If we locked em all up or shot them then.....we would cut the population in half and perhaps the government wouldnt be so bothered about our filipina's visas
The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from
I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid
ok leave them at the top string up the young uns , then those at the top can start all over againTop of the chain being who else but ferrari drivers
As for going soft on the drug taking kids...spare a thought for the victims of some of these drug taking kids....you only gotta look at the papers...houses getting broken into...the elderly getting mugged and sometimes .....string them up I say
you be surprised who around you quietly smoke their weed, you'd never know itSteady on....half the population
The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from
I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid
not all drug taking kids are house breaking, and mugging the elderly,, who is it has that wide brushTop of the chain being who else but ferrari drivers
As for going soft on the drug taking kids...spare a thought for the victims of some of these drug taking kids....you only gotta look at the papers...houses getting broken into...the elderly getting mugged and sometimes .....string them up I say
The problem is that there is a big demand for most of these drugs
Movie stars, catwalk models, music industry, media types, and the most of the square mile seem to operate on cocaine
I dont think the dealers are forcing anyone to buy their items and if anything they cant supply enough of it
I wonder when they are going to win this WAR ON DRUGS anyway - not in my lifetime thats for sure
Yes, I was exaggerating when I said half.Steady on....half the population
The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from
I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid
Its everywhere. You just dont know it. Take a closer look some day and I am sure you will find that it goes on right under your nose, in your own back yard.
Steady on....half the population
The kids may all be junkies where you are from....definitely not where im from
I'd pack away your broad brush for another day Lastlid
What is it that you smoke? Must be good stuff.
I don't think there are many places in the country where there isn't significant drug abuse. I would be very surprised if your neighbourhood is the exception. Have a look in your local paper. You will see many drug related stories each week. What this means is that it exists. What it doesn't mean is that it is being halted. What the public tends to be aware of is just the tip of a larger iceberg.
Drug abuse knows no geographical or social boundaries.
I think you'll find that most kids use "recreational" drugs and only a fraction become addicts.all the more reasons why there should be no changes and make the laws softer.
lets see if he says its was a sensible approach when his kids become addicts
not all drug taking kids are house breaking, and mugging the elderly,, who is it has that wide brush
Well written
Well writtenAnd I second that, I am sorry to say. Sad, but true. Drug abuse is part of our society, like alcoholism, overeating and the smoking of cigarettes. We seem to be winning the war on the consumption of tobacco products but it has taken soooo long to get this far, however there is a lot more hard work to be done with the remaining issues.I wonder when they are going to win this WAR ON DRUGS anyway - not in my lifetime thats for sure
A 2007 story but as far as I know, no different in 2012.
And it doesn't specify that Wiltshire is the exception.
"Drug-related crime costs England and Wales more than £13 billion a year and damages the health of hundreds of thousands of addicts, according to a report.
The UK has the highest levels of addiction and multi-drug consumption and the second-highest rate of drug-related deaths in Europe, the document claimed."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...in-Europe.html
Also below:
"Britain has the highest level of problem drug use and the second highest level of drug related deaths in Europe, according to a report by the independent UK Drug Policy Commission.
There has also been a 68 percent increase in the number of recorded drug offences in the last ten years according to the Home Office.
Shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve attacked the government, saying: "No amount of Home Office spin on this year's figures can hide the fact that class A drug use and drug crime have risen under this government."
"
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2008/...orst-in-europe
"Scotland has again topped the world league for cocaine consumption.
Figures published by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) show 3.9% of Scottish residents aged between 16 and 64 used the drug in the past year.
That was a higher proportion than in any other country and compares to 2.5% for England and Wales.
The figures also showed Scotland with a rate of heroin use twice that of the rest of the United Kingdom."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13898046
spend some time in any A&E see how many 'recreational' drug takers turn up there out of their heads
my misses has to deal with them, many are abusive, violent. who wants to try and treat 'people' like that ???
I know. You are right Joe. ( Though same for alcohol related incidents ).spend some time in any A&E see how many 'recreational' drug takers turn up there out of their heads
my misses has to deal with them, many are abusive, violent. who wants to try and treat 'people' like that ???
Its a big problem. But its how to deal with it that is the problem. Society in Britain hasn't found a way yet.
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