Hi again ,,,,,,,, OK that's me sorted ,,,,, fly out 9 dec. ( For 7 days ) frm HTW arrive manila 15.00 ( term 1 ) that should give me / us ( ! ) Plenty of time to hire a car and find a hotel before it gets dark and the demons of manila can consume us !!!!!!!! 720 all inc ,,,,, eeeh ha !!!!!!!!