I guess you must have upset somebody then.
I guess you must have upset somebody then.
How times change...looks as if we've been inundated with socialists where wealth and self created good fortune are filthy words...Citizen Smith lives on...Originally Posted by andy222
I guess you must have upset somebody then.
You say you met my type before well, I have certainly met your type on many occasion.
Take a leaf out of Steve's book and get on your bike ..in Steve's case he got on a plane to China...these are the few examples you should follow...channel your energies into something productive.
The situation isn't gonna change for many a year now no matter how much you get on your MP's case....think of number 1.
Personally speaking Gwapito I have nothing against wealth creation or people who've done well for themselves unless of course they've walked all over others to get there.
I do have a serious problem though when you ask ordinary working people to pick up the bill when everything goes tits up.
My blood boils when I hear another round of Bankers Bonuses being handed out while Public Sector workers have a pay freeze imposed.
BTW I love Citizen Smith and he wasn't a socialist he was an Urban Guerilla. Power to the People
Oh your talking about steve your buddy?. How do you know what I am like?. Yes I stick up for workers rights. From your posts I can see your a hypocrite. And I wont do as you say and go to china. What gives you the right to dictate to me? All I want is the same opportunity that you was given and that is to bring my wife here. Now your showing your true colours.
Marco...your views are balanced and I respect and agree with most of what you post.Personally speaking Gwapito I have nothing against wealth creation or people who've done well for themselves unless of course they've walked all over others to get there.
I do have a serious problem though when you ask ordinary working people to pick up the bill when everything goes tits up.
My blood boils when I hear another round of Bankers Bonuses being handed out while Public Sector workers have a pay freeze imposed.
BTW I love Citizen Smith and he wasn't a socialist he was an Urban Guerilla. Power to the People
Llike most where I work we join the union for our own protection and the Unite Union have done us proud.
I do hope George sticks to his word...I was reading about it earlier today, heartwarming stuff I must say....although, over the years we've heard it all before..nothing ever comes of it.
Another thing that puzzles me is why some folks assume that the house of cards will eventually tumble all because they've worked hard at something worthwhile all there lives......in my eyes that's purely negative thinking...if one thinks like that why bother about anything.
' Power to the people' surely is a socialist saying
'Hypocrite'...I can assure you I stand by what I say.
Even you buddy frm the Isle Of Dogs can vouch for that...I've left a paper trail all the way from June when this all started...I suggest you read my posts again...then again then, I dare you to call me a hypocrite.
Good day.
i dont know if he went to China because he wasn't earning £18.6k so he couldn't bring his wife here, i thought he found a job in China that he wanted to do
Steve where r u
Either way..Steve's done something about it...no fuss no tearsi dont know if he went to China because he wasn't earning £18.6k so he couldn't bring his wife here, i thought he found a job in China that he wanted to do
Steve where r u
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god its sound like something from EASTENDERS, but saying that i dont watch it grow up the lot of yer, all we can do is what is right for ourselves and if that works maybe past it on to others,where theres a will theres away, also steve went to china to get away from this thread
Your right steve I was just putting the hypocrit into his place.
You put me in my place ha!Your right steve I was just putting the hypocrit into his place.
Fool
Btw...nobody is obliged to read anything here ..'you dont like'.dont read
Here we go again another useful thread turning to personal insults rather than reasoned discussion.
Please do continue everyone and see the thread closed.
I have just seen my name floating about and had a read of the thread.
On my personal situation I found the whole thing in the Uk as getting out of hand, whoever is in charge. New rules for one omits others and their rights to a family life, the growing red tape to try to weave your way through to get your loved one here, the increasing prices of the visas, the way we are ripped off at every turn by our government. I had just had enough. I wanted to bring my wife and son here to the Uk, have the benefits that it brings, but what sort of life it is these days? is there 'real' quality of life? I think we have lost sight of reality and values; we pinch here to save there. I had just had enough.
For a long time I have been saying to my friends here that my long term plan was to move to Phils, and this still stands. But like many who are thinking about such a move the reality is (especially for those who are still relatively young and working) that you still need a job or how can you live? I was not fortunate enough to keep my house when i got divorced so have no property to take a rented income from, so that was a non starter. As for my job in the Uk, I was in fact over the limit of £18,600. My lifestyle was minimal as I lived with my parents, but I still have to maintain my family in Phils. Saving for flights, running my family in Phils and all other expenses leaves you with very little to save, and like most you live from pay day to pay day. This is what I needed to change.
I have been very fortunate, my plan has worked. I decided to try to find an alternative way of being together with my family and still make money and be together with them. I (through a friend) was introduced to a company in Germany who needed managers in China. Bingo!! I was offered the job, without an interview and here I am now.
The beauty of this position is that the money I am on is 4 times more than I was earning in the Uk, which means I can save for that rainy day or invest in the future. Being here 'is' the dream job I have always wanted and although I feel out of my depth sometimes, I need the challenges it brings. But most of all I am now only 2.5 hours flight away from my family in Phils. There are no restrictions for my wife to come to China to be with me, no silly 'learn English rules', no red tape, no proof of relationship, proof of income blah blah blah!!!
In the next week or so I am going to be hunting for an apartment exactly for this purpose and then I hope that within the month I will be together with my beautiful wife and son.
I really think that the British system is failing, making rules to stop a loving relationship because you earn less than someone else is just crazy. Like I said, I was lucky enough to be over the limit but how can this be right?? My move was driven by the desire NOT to be in the Uk anymore because I can’t handle the day to day rubbish and bullying big brother aspect of life, I don’t like the way we are hearded by the media and whipped up into a frenzy over the latest star’s comments or sensationalised stories and photos of bare royal flesh. Grow up Uk...get a life!!
The most important thing for me is to look after number one, by that I mean myself and my family. My move gives me the freedom to do what I like, when I like and where I like. I am not dictated to by an over baring nanny state. We make our own destiny and at least I am trying my best to make my one shot at life the best for us all.
I hope that clarifies the situation. And guys, PLEASE keep it civil... I still wave a big axe even here in China
Steve
By the way Lastlid, you have a cute baby
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
Ed Miliband walks into a bank to cash a cheque. “Good morning”, says Ed, “could you please cash this cheque for me?”
Cashier: “It would be my pleasure Sir, but could you please show me some identification?”
Miliband: “Truthfully… I did not bring my ID with me as I didn’t think there was any need to. But hang on! I’m Ed Miliband, Leader of the Opposition and of the Labour Party!!!”
...
Cashier: ““Yes Sir, I know who you are, but with all the regulations and monitoring of the banks because of impostors and forgers etc, I must insist on seeing some identification”.
Miliband: “Just ask any of the customers here at the bank who I am and they will tell you. Everybody knows who I am!”
Cashier: “I’m sorry Sir, but these are the bank rules and I must follow them”.
Miliband: “I am urging you please, to cash this cheque for me”.
Cashier: “Look Sir, this is what we can do. One day Colin Montgomery came into the bank without any ID. To prove he was Colin Montgomery he pulled out his putter and putted a ball along the floor and into a small cup. With that sort of skill we knew it was Colin Montgomery and we cashed his cheque. On another occasion, Andy Murray came in without any ID. He pulled out his tennis racquet and lobbed a tennis ball straight into my teacup with such a spectacular shot that we all knew it was Andy Murray and we cashed his cheque. So Sir, what can you do to prove that it is you and only you, as the Leader of the Opposition?”
Ed Miliband stood there thinking and thinking and then finally says, “To be honest, there is nothing that comes to my mind. I can’t think of a single thing that I’m any good at.”
Cashier: “Will it be large or small notes you require Mr Miliband?”
Steve`s great escape.
Well planned and executed.. Congrats once again on your well managed departure from the U.K.
I have just seen my name floating about and had a read of the thread.
On my personal situation I found the whole thing in the Uk as getting out of hand, whoever is in charge. New rules for one omits others and their rights to a family life, the growing red tape to try to weave your way through to get your loved one here, the increasing prices of the visas, the way we are ripped off at every turn by our government. I had just had enough. I wanted to bring my wife and son here to the Uk, have the benefits that it brings, but what sort of life it is these days? is there 'real' quality of life? I think we have lost sight of reality and values; we pinch here to save there. I had just had enough.
For a long time I have been saying to my friends here that my long term plan was to move to Phils, and this still stands. But like many who are thinking about such a move the reality is (especially for those who are still relatively young and working) that you still need a job or how can you live? I was not fortunate enough to keep my house when i got divorced so have no property to take a rented income from, so that was a non starter. As for my job in the Uk, I was in fact over the limit of £18,600. My lifestyle was minimal as I lived with my parents, but I still have to maintain my family in Phils. Saving for flights, running my family in Phils and all other expenses leaves you with very little to save, and like most you live from pay day to pay day. This is what I needed to change.
I have been very fortunate, my plan has worked. I decided to try to find an alternative way of being together with my family and still make money and be together with them. I (through a friend) was introduced to a company in Germany who needed managers in China. Bingo!! I was offered the job, without an interview and here I am now.
The beauty of this position is that the money I am on is 4 times more than I was earning in the Uk, which means I can save for that rainy day or invest in the future. Being here 'is' the dream job I have always wanted and although I feel out of my depth sometimes, I need the challenges it brings. But most of all I am now only 2.5 hours flight away from my family in Phils. There are no restrictions for my wife to come to China to be with me, no silly 'learn English rules', no red tape, no proof of relationship, proof of income blah blah blah!!!
In the next week or so I am going to be hunting for an apartment exactly for this purpose and then I hope that within the month I will be together with my beautiful wife and son.
I really think that the British system is failing, making rules to stop a loving relationship because you earn less than someone else is just crazy. Like I said, I was lucky enough to be over the limit but how can this be right?? My move was driven by the desire NOT to be in the Uk anymore because I can’t handle the day to day rubbish and bullying big brother aspect of life, I don’t like the way we are hearded by the media and whipped up into a frenzy over the latest star’s comments or sensationalised stories and photos of bare royal flesh. Grow up Uk...get a life!!
The most important thing for me is to look after number one, by that I mean myself and my family. My move gives me the freedom to do what I like, when I like and where I like. I am not dictated to by an over baring nanny state. We make our own destiny and at least I am trying my best to make my one shot at life the best for us all.
I hope that clarifies the situation. And guys, PLEASE keep it civil... I still wave a big axe even here in China
Steve
By the way Lastlid, you have a cute baby
Cant argue with you steve if I had the chance I would be out of here.
Steve,
Great post. Had similar thoughts 20 years ago and moved to Asia. Have never regretted my decision.
By the way Lastlid, you have a cute baby
Good post Steve.
Same reason I went to work in Hong Kong.
Upon reflection...wished I'd stayed there.
-=rayna.keith=-
...When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible...
I have just seen my name floating about and had a read of the thread.
On my personal situation I found the whole thing in the Uk as getting out of hand, whoever is in charge. New rules for one omits others and their rights to a family life, the growing red tape to try to weave your way through to get your loved one here, the increasing prices of the visas, the way we are ripped off at every turn by our government. I had just had enough. I wanted to bring my wife and son here to the Uk, have the benefits that it brings, but what sort of life it is these days? is there 'real' quality of life? I think we have lost sight of reality and values; we pinch here to save there. I had just had enough.
For a long time I have been saying to my friends here that my long term plan was to move to Phils, and this still stands. But like many who are thinking about such a move the reality is (especially for those who are still relatively young and working) that you still need a job or how can you live? I was not fortunate enough to keep my house when i got divorced so have no property to take a rented income from, so that was a non starter. As for my job in the Uk, I was in fact over the limit of £18,600. My lifestyle was minimal as I lived with my parents, but I still have to maintain my family in Phils. Saving for flights, running my family in Phils and all other expenses leaves you with very little to save, and like most you live from pay day to pay day. This is what I needed to change.
I have been very fortunate, my plan has worked. I decided to try to find an alternative way of being together with my family and still make money and be together with them. I (through a friend) was introduced to a company in Germany who needed managers in China. Bingo!! I was offered the job, without an interview and here I am now.
The beauty of this position is that the money I am on is 4 times more than I was earning in the Uk, which means I can save for that rainy day or invest in the future. Being here 'is' the dream job I have always wanted and although I feel out of my depth sometimes, I need the challenges it brings. But most of all I am now only 2.5 hours flight away from my family in Phils. There are no restrictions for my wife to come to China to be with me, no silly 'learn English rules', no red tape, no proof of relationship, proof of income blah blah blah!!!
In the next week or so I am going to be hunting for an apartment exactly for this purpose and then I hope that within the month I will be together with my beautiful wife and son.
I really think that the British system is failing, making rules to stop a loving relationship because you earn less than someone else is just crazy. Like I said, I was lucky enough to be over the limit but how can this be right?? My move was driven by the desire NOT to be in the Uk anymore because I can’t handle the day to day rubbish and bullying big brother aspect of life, I don’t like the way we are hearded by the media and whipped up into a frenzy over the latest star’s comments or sensationalised stories and photos of bare royal flesh. Grow up Uk...get a life!!
The most important thing for me is to look after number one, by that I mean myself and my family. My move gives me the freedom to do what I like, when I like and where I like. I am not dictated to by an over baring nanny state. We make our own destiny and at least I am trying my best to make my one shot at life the best for us all.
I hope that clarifies the situation. And guys, PLEASE keep it civil... I still wave a big axe even here in China
Steve
By the way Lastlid, you have a cute baby
Good for you Steve..
...When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible...
Thank you for your replies guys, it has been a long road but I just never gave up on my dreams. If I can stay here for the next ten years I will be more than happy. My home and heart is in Asia.
And Graham, you are still free to return to working in Asia, give it a go
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
and you moved to china
good things are working out for you Steve thou
I salute your courage and determination Steve and hope everything continues to work out well for youI have just seen my name floating about and had a read of the thread.
On my personal situation I found the whole thing in the Uk as getting out of hand, whoever is in charge. New rules for one omits others and their rights to a family life, the growing red tape to try to weave your way through to get your loved one here, the increasing prices of the visas, the way we are ripped off at every turn by our government. I had just had enough. I wanted to bring my wife and son here to the Uk, have the benefits that it brings, but what sort of life it is these days? is there 'real' quality of life? I think we have lost sight of reality and values; we pinch here to save there. I had just had enough.
For a long time I have been saying to my friends here that my long term plan was to move to Phils, and this still stands. But like many who are thinking about such a move the reality is (especially for those who are still relatively young and working) that you still need a job or how can you live? I was not fortunate enough to keep my house when i got divorced so have no property to take a rented income from, so that was a non starter. As for my job in the Uk, I was in fact over the limit of £18,600. My lifestyle was minimal as I lived with my parents, but I still have to maintain my family in Phils. Saving for flights, running my family in Phils and all other expenses leaves you with very little to save, and like most you live from pay day to pay day. This is what I needed to change.
I have been very fortunate, my plan has worked. I decided to try to find an alternative way of being together with my family and still make money and be together with them. I (through a friend) was introduced to a company in Germany who needed managers in China. Bingo!! I was offered the job, without an interview and here I am now.
The beauty of this position is that the money I am on is 4 times more than I was earning in the Uk, which means I can save for that rainy day or invest in the future. Being here 'is' the dream job I have always wanted and although I feel out of my depth sometimes, I need the challenges it brings. But most of all I am now only 2.5 hours flight away from my family in Phils. There are no restrictions for my wife to come to China to be with me, no silly 'learn English rules', no red tape, no proof of relationship, proof of income blah blah blah!!!
In the next week or so I am going to be hunting for an apartment exactly for this purpose and then I hope that within the month I will be together with my beautiful wife and son.
I really think that the British system is failing, making rules to stop a loving relationship because you earn less than someone else is just crazy. Like I said, I was lucky enough to be over the limit but how can this be right?? My move was driven by the desire NOT to be in the Uk anymore because I can’t handle the day to day rubbish and bullying big brother aspect of life, I don’t like the way we are hearded by the media and whipped up into a frenzy over the latest star’s comments or sensationalised stories and photos of bare royal flesh. Grow up Uk...get a life!!
The most important thing for me is to look after number one, by that I mean myself and my family. My move gives me the freedom to do what I like, when I like and where I like. I am not dictated to by an over baring nanny state. We make our own destiny and at least I am trying my best to make my one shot at life the best for us all.
I hope that clarifies the situation. And guys, PLEASE keep it civil... I still wave a big axe even here in China
Steve
By the way Lastlid, you have a cute baby
Thanks Joe, I guess you are right in that aspect, but from what I have seen, the people are happy and have a reasonable quality of life. There are of course huge divides between rich and poor, but I have not seen any people living rough and definitely no slums.and you moved to china
good things are working out for you Steve thou
Cheers Marco I appreciate your kind wordsI salute your courage and determination Steve and hope everything continues to work out well for you
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
fantastic steve, we shall see you sooner then later if you still have your place in Bongabon, great write up, life is going very well for you and just like you say you are closer to your family, all what you say is true about being here and number 1 too, i give myself till i am 60 hope to be here that long
Cheers Steve, I know you have your plans and it takes time to see them through. But we wont be moving from Bongabon any time soon, so I hope to share a few beers at ours one day buddy.
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
Massive respect Steve....you're right of course, you have to do the right thing for your family which is what I've always done.I have just seen my name floating about and had a read of the thread.
On my personal situation I found the whole thing in the Uk as getting out of hand, whoever is in charge. New rules for one omits others and their rights to a family life, the growing red tape to try to weave your way through to get your loved one here, the increasing prices of the visas, the way we are ripped off at every turn by our government. I had just had enough. I wanted to bring my wife and son here to the Uk, have the benefits that it brings, but what sort of life it is these days? is there 'real' quality of life? I think we have lost sight of reality and values; we pinch here to save there. I had just had enough.
For a long time I have been saying to my friends here that my long term plan was to move to Phils, and this still stands. But like many who are thinking about such a move the reality is (especially for those who are still relatively young and working) that you still need a job or how can you live? I was not fortunate enough to keep my house when i got divorced so have no property to take a rented income from, so that was a non starter. As for my job in the Uk, I was in fact over the limit of £18,600. My lifestyle was minimal as I lived with my parents, but I still have to maintain my family in Phils. Saving for flights, running my family in Phils and all other expenses leaves you with very little to save, and like most you live from pay day to pay day. This is what I needed to change.
I have been very fortunate, my plan has worked. I decided to try to find an alternative way of being together with my family and still make money and be together with them. I (through a friend) was introduced to a company in Germany who needed managers in China. Bingo!! I was offered the job, without an interview and here I am now.
The beauty of this position is that the money I am on is 4 times more than I was earning in the Uk, which means I can save for that rainy day or invest in the future. Being here 'is' the dream job I have always wanted and although I feel out of my depth sometimes, I need the challenges it brings. But most of all I am now only 2.5 hours flight away from my family in Phils. There are no restrictions for my wife to come to China to be with me, no silly 'learn English rules', no red tape, no proof of relationship, proof of income blah blah blah!!!
In the next week or so I am going to be hunting for an apartment exactly for this purpose and then I hope that within the month I will be together with my beautiful wife and son.
I really think that the British system is failing, making rules to stop a loving relationship because you earn less than someone else is just crazy. Like I said, I was lucky enough to be over the limit but how can this be right?? My move was driven by the desire NOT to be in the Uk anymore because I can’t handle the day to day rubbish and bullying big brother aspect of life, I don’t like the way we are hearded by the media and whipped up into a frenzy over the latest star’s comments or sensationalised stories and photos of bare royal flesh. Grow up Uk...get a life!!
The most important thing for me is to look after number one, by that I mean myself and my family. My move gives me the freedom to do what I like, when I like and where I like. I am not dictated to by an over baring nanny state. We make our own destiny and at least I am trying my best to make my one shot at life the best for us all.
I hope that clarifies the situation. And guys, PLEASE keep it civil... I still wave a big axe even here in China
Steve
By the way Lastlid, you have a cute baby
It takes courage to do what you've done.....I did something similar back in late 80's working for a French outfit based in department 33.
Truly hope it all works out for you Steve.
Best wishes
Mark
I have travelled all my life for work. Since 1979. Norman Tebbit would have been proud of me. But I don't think it is always the right solution for everybody and neither should it be. Imagine if we all travelled in the same way, the country would be in chaos
It is of course great that Steve has found a solution that suits him and one that perhaps Steve skills are suited to. But such a move might not suit everyone in the same way.
As a reminder of Norman Tebbits advice:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...for-a-job.html
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