Hacker Gary McKinnon to discover his extradition fate today

[KeithD]

This case is little different from Cpt Hook!!!.... If Gary had just gone to the US 10 years ago he'd be home and free by now after diplomacy shortened his sentence

Cpt Hook was denied on health grounds to have his extradition cancelled and I hope it's the case with this idiot as well. I'm pretty sure if he'd hacked MI5, MI6, the PM's office, etc here, then he'd have had a strong sentence and been jailed years ago.

His mother says he just sits in a dark room now due to his health, and any change will make him suicidal!!! So if he's sitting in a dark US prison cell he won't notice much difference then!!

[joebloggs]

they should thank him for what he did , he could have been the chinese gov or a terrorist group

[andy222]

they should thank him for what he did , he could have been the chinese gov or a terrorist group

Or the Russians.

[joebloggs]

he's not being deported now ..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138

[KeithD]

One rule for one terrorist and another rule for another

[bigmarco]

I agree with Theresa Mays decision on this occassion. He's not a terrorist and it would be foolish to treat him as one.

[KeithD]

So the Chinese hacking into the pentagon aren't terrorists then?

[bigmarco]

So the Chinese hacking into the pentagon aren't terrorists then?

I have no idea whether they are or not. I just happen to agree with Theresa Mays decision here. I have seen no evidence to suggest that McKinnon was nothing other than extremely foolish.

[Michael Parnham]

They should extradite him, because he won't commit suicide unless he's stupid!

[KeithD]

I'd do anything to get into the US this year .... anyone know anything about hacking?

[Bluebirdjones]

They should extradite him, because he won't commit suicide unless he's stupid!

What a crass and ridiculous thing to say !


Prisoners who attempt or carry out suicide are much more likely than other prisoners to have several factors in their lives that are known to be associated with increased vulnerability to suicide . They are more likely to be suffering from a mental ill health, especially depression and/or anxiety, psychosis and personality disorder. They are also more likely to have a severe lack of social support (with few or no close friends and family members still in contact with them). In addition, they are more likely to have history of adverse life events, both recently (for example, bereavement or the ending of a relationship) and over the course of their lifetime (particularly violence and sexual abuse).

..... or perhaps they were just STUPID ?????

What a kn*b you are

[johncar54]

Hopefully he will now be tried in the UK and, if found guilty of an offence, then sentenced appropriately.

For the extradition order to have been approved means there is ample evidence for him to stand trial.

As for the comment, "I have seen no evidence to suggest that McKinnon was nothing other than extremely foolish." Without having access the all the extradition papers submitted by the USA, that cannot carry any weight whatsoever.

[Bluebirdjones]

John,
knowing of your past employment, I'd normally bow to your superior knowledge on all things "crime related", but in this case not.

For the extradition order to have been approved means there is ample evidence for him to stand trial.

..... is wrong in the case of the recent UK/USA extradition law.


The United Kingdom's is a unique extradition arrangement with the United States of America,
.......the UK is one of only three countries in which the US does not have to produce prima facie evidence for extradition. The others are France, which will not extradite its own citizens to the USA, and the Republic of Ireland, which has a higher forum test than the UK.

[johncar54]

OK, let's leave it at that. Nevertheless, all the the reports I have heard on TV and radio have said that he has admitted 'the offence.'

Quote from the internet:-

Extradition from the UK to US

The process begins when a US prosecutor obtains an arrest warrant with the approval of the domestic courts.

In England and Wales, the Crown Prosecution Service acts on behalf of the US in taking the case through the courts.

Once the police have arrested the suspect, the courts must decide whether or not the US has met the tests required for an extradition to take place. This is a fairly technical hearing in which the lawfulness of the request is examined.

The US does not need to provide all the evidence in a case, as if the allegations were being tested in a full trial by British judges.

What this comes down to is proving to the courts that there is reasonable suspicion - essentially the hurdle police need to jump to justify an arrest - but obviously short of what is necessary to get a conviction.

[KeithD]

What a kn*b you are

Admin: Please refrain from personal slander. At no point did the poster make a personal attack on you. Please apologise or we will have to take action.

[stevewool]

I'd do anything to get into the US this year .... anyone know anything about hacking?

go as a lumberjack they are always hacking down trees, ok that maybe canada but closer to the usa border then here

[Bluebirdjones]

Keith,
That I cannot do.
His statement/comment was totally inappropriate and my opinion of him won't change.

I now realise that I've gone past my "sell-by" date on this board, and it's now time to say adios.

My thanks for providing an interesting & informative forum which especially helped me in the early days of my journey, and a special thanks to Joe Bloggs & Terpe for the various information threads over the years.
Your input and knowledge has been appreciated...... THANK YOU.


Certain posters and comments have made me cringe at times, but I've generally held my council.
I'm obviously losing that restraint ...... so best if I depart.

Goodbye

[stevewool]

he should be given a job with the goverment to stop this sort of thing happening again, surely hes worth something like that

[KeithD]

Keith,
That I cannot do.
His statement/comment was totally inappropriate and my opinion of him won't change.

If I was having this discussion with a stranger in the street, I'd be polite and respectful enough not to call that person a , if I did in the heat of the moment I'd then be man enough to apologise. People who revert to name calling of strangers they are supposed to be having a civilised discussion with have lost the argument as they have shown they can not answer without reverting to childish verbal thuggery.

Thank you for your past posts, you have helped many people and are still welcome here after a simple apology, and your infraction has lapsed .