why do so many people have no religion in europe?
elmarie,
why do so many people have no religion in europe?
elmarie,
This subject matter is going to cause lots of friction with many differences of opinion and is likely to get out of hand. Anyone replying to this thread must be respectful and non-judgmental towards other members or the thread will be closed.Originally Posted by wayne
why do so many people have no religion in europe?
elmarie,
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
I would get banned so i will refrain from this topic
2 things when your born - fear of falling and loud noises... the rest is conditioning..
an old joke.........
I heard a story once about a Christian missionary in Alaska. He was talking to an Eskimo there and teaching him about God, Heaven and all the rest. At one point, the Eskimo asks, "If I don't accept Jesus as my saviour, will I go to Hell?" And the missionary says, "Oh yes." Then the Eskimo asks, "What if I didn't know about Jesus? Would I still go to Hell?" The missionary says, "Of course not, you can't be punished for that which you don't know."
The Eskimo looks at him and says, "Then why did you tell me?"
Religion is still quite strong in Europe.......
i do wish members would refrain from publicly thanking their chosen god, on here. it can be quite offensive to those of us who have moved on from such beliefs.
Not at all... unlike in the UK, MOST Filipinos are "steeped" in the Christian faith, and it is incumbent on those of us in the 'western world' to respect their beliefs.
Quite right Arthur why should members stop how bigmac find this offensive is beyond me.....If I want to thank god on this forum I hope I'm able to do so without restrictionsNot at all
AN HAPPY WIFE IS A HAPPY LIFE
Quite right!Not at all
their beliefs.
I myself believe in evolution, but I do respect whatever others believe in!
doesn't offend me,,,,,,,,,, thank god
if it offends then don't read
i'm all in favour of freedom of worship--but is it appropriate to ascribe thanks to their god on here--for (for example ) helping them obtain a visa?--when the same god appears to ignore the pleas of the sick and the dying?
next thing some will be praising whatever political power may be running the show--for providing the visa.
The majority are no longer gulliblewhy do so many people have no religion in europe?
elmarie,
We do tend to edit most of the titles that do this.
Believers in the US has dropped 5% in the last few years, and they are fast gaining ground on believers.
I see the Pope has got rid of the ox and donkeys from the nativity.... next he'll be telling us Jesus wasn't there as well
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hallo guys!!thanks for answering my question! i wish i we can meet you all guys wen im there
all of you guys are friendly.. i respect all your answers!
HAVE A NICE DAY xxxxxx
elmarie,
Have a close look within Europe. In some countries religion is as strong as ever still. For example Spain and Portugal.
Graham ! NO !!!
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PRAISE DE LAWD Y'ALL
but seriously--it must be a real culture shock for anyone relocating from a country steeped in christianity--to the UK--where in all probability--the only places of worship well attended are mosques . most british people hardly--if ever--attend any church or place of worship---and anyone openly and frequently talking about god in everyday conversation--is looked upon with suspicion.
When you respect the views of others, whether they believe in God or not, it won't be that of a shock..The problem starts when someone would insist what he/she believes to the others.
-=rayna.keith=-
...When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible...
Not mentioning anyone in particular here! In fact I'm not really thinking of anyone on this forum/thread.
However there is another thread on this forum, where some said that they don't like UK women/men, don't like their "values", don't like the way they behave around town, drinking to excess, showing off their tasteless tattoos and puking in unison.
Surely anyone with this belief couldn't ever post on this thread, attacking religion (I'm not saying they have)
It would not be making too many assumptions, that these members have partners who are pinoy - nature of this forum, just like the fact I post on a movie forum suggests I like movies.
This would mean that firstly, by attacking the beliefs of their partners (As opposed to say just accepting difference of opinion) they were being quite disrespectful towards their loved ones, who by experience I would guess were at least in passing religious - most people I have met from Phils are at least moderately religious. One thing about religious believers, is that they are easily offended if you attack their belief.
Secondly and ironically, they are attacking one of the very things core to the attitude and beliefs of their partners - one of the very things that attracted them to their partners in the first place, maybe they even went out to Phils to find their partner on purpose.
Maybe such a poster would be better off finding a nice atheist fat tattood drunk called Shazza from Slough. Three kids, three different dads (not sure though which men they were, too many Stellas that night innit)
Point is, someone can't be your soulmate if such an important part of what they are, and what makes them what they are, is something to be treated with derision.
infact if a person can not believe a maker exists , then how can he know he himself exists,
both man and maker are pretty unbelievable dont you think
I think it's just as unreasonable to make assumptions about Atheists as it is to make them about religious types.
My Filipina wife (for 15 years...ie, longer than most on here) was an Atheist and yes, had 3 children, each to a different father... though what relevance that has to her religion or lack of it, I'm not sure about.
Some Atheists (like myself) wouldn't be so ignorant or insensitive as to directly criticise the beliefs of others in their presence, or to cause them to feel awkward about their beliefs and customs.
Atheism is not a religion or a 'type', and with most that I know of, neither is it a 'crusade', which is perhaps why we come in so many varieties and are able to easily assimilate into most societies without whining incessantly or fighting amongst ourselves.
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Why?
Well maybe more people have moved on and believe more in science?
Then again, I have a friend whose "hobby" is quantum physics. Apparently the latest theory on how the universe was formed, is that there wasn't a "big bang" but two (for want of a better word) "brains" came together and fused.
There is also the theory that there are actually 11 dimensions, but because we are stuck in 3 dimensions, we can't see the others (Just like if a paper cut out man was stuck to a piece of paper, he would only see one dimension)
Frankly after hearing this, I'd be more inclined to believe in religion! Oh come on - that idea is barking!
One thing I have noticed, is that nowadays (One religion apart) the most intolerant and unpleasant people, seem to be the atheists who want to ram their beliefs (Or should that be lack of beliefs) down everyone's throat and make everyone conform to their way of thinking. In the same breath, they accuse the religious of being intolerant and forcing their beliefs on the atheists.
Like it or not, religion of all sorts has tended to create moral behaviour amongst humans for all history. Humans are violent animals by nature - and maybe their leaders have realised early on that one way of keeping society in check is to hang over the threat of divine retribution.
No religions tend to preach "get out there and cause conflict" - it's the followers of those religions, or their leaders, who twist the religious message for their own purpose.
Churches struggle to fill their halls, the mosques though may be overflowing. What does that tell you? Many messages actually, not all obvious. One being that the Christians are lazy and don't think they need to attend organised religious worship anymore.
100 years ago the churches were packed. Were people more religious? Well, maybe no - don't forget that at that time, the churches provided most of the social activity in the towns and villages. Plenty of other things to do now.
So many reasons that say the UK appears not to be particularly religious.
A small point, but the theory is that two "branes" fused, the term "brane" coming from "membrane".
These theories are based in physics and mathematics, so they are much more credible than the religious mumbo jumbo, no matter how abstract and "barking" the ideas may seem.
Ahh thought she said "brain" hehe.
Nah, still crazy
Then again, she thinks there are countless parallel universes, maybe there is one where Huddersfield Town won the title, or perhaps that is taking barking to new heights
But, do you get the feeling that a god had a hand in it all somewhere along the line?
A very good question and I simply don't know.
I'm sure that there is no "interventionlist" god, who has any affect or influence on us. However, there are plenty of unasnswered questions, especially concerning what happened before the big bang. Our physics and mathematics break down at that point, so it's difficult to know anything about that time (although strictly, "time" didn't exist then)!
However, it is possible that some form of "higher intelligence" was at work. It's difficult to conceive that the universe is here as a billions to one chance occurrence.
I've read plenty of books on this sort of thing. One of the best was "6 numbers" by Martin Rees. It explains how 6 physical constants (eg, the speed of light, the charge of an electron) have caused us and the universe to exist. If any of these numbers were just fractionally different, nothing would exist. How were the values of these numbers set?
That was what Imagine was saying, a few posts back. That must be the book he was referring to....
Cheers for that.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-Six-Num.../dp/0753810220
Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY
Snap. Same here. Amazing.Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY
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