why??

[KeithD]

Religion, like civilisations, comes and goes. A God or Gods was an old way of explaining things that could not at the time be explained. Now we have the answers to most of those questions, and where this knowledge exists for the masses to make a decision, you will find religion in decline.

Whoever made this site and compiled all the names needs a medal: http://www.godchecker.com/

One thing all these Gods/Religions have in common is that the more we came to understand the facts of verything around us, the more they declined.

[Jamesey]

But, do you get the feeling that a god had a hand in it all somewhere along the line?

A very good question and I simply don't know.

I'm sure that there is no "interventionlist" god, who has any affect or influence on us. However, there are plenty of unasnswered questions, especially concerning what happened before the big bang. Our physics and mathematics break down at that point, so it's difficult to know anything about that time (although strictly, "time" didn't exist then)!

However, it is possible that some form of "higher intelligence" was at work. It's difficult to conceive that the universe is here as a billions to one chance occurrence.

I've read plenty of books on this sort of thing. One of the best was "6 numbers" by Martin Rees. It explains how 6 physical constants (eg, the speed of light, the charge of an electron) have caused us and the universe to exist. If any of these numbers were just fractionally different, nothing would exist. How were the values of these numbers set?

[lastlid]

The Gospel according to Billy Connelly. (beware of multiple swearing) .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwooM...eature=related

[imagine]

we may have learnt many things about our existance, but we will never stop learning, i dont believe there is one simple answer or that science is anywhere near the answer,

quote some words from a song,,,,,,,the more we find out the less we know

[lastlid]

A very good question and I simply don't know.

I'm sure that there is no "interventionlist" god, who has any affect or influence on us. However, there are plenty of unasnswered questions, especially concerning what happened before the big bang. Our physics and mathematics break down at that point, so it's difficult to know anything about that time (although strictly, "time" didn't exist then)!

However, it is possible that some form of "higher intelligence" was at work. It's difficult to conceive that the universe is here as a billions to one chance occurrence.

I've read plenty of books on this sort of thing. One of the best was "6 numbers" by Martin Rees. It explains how 6 physical constants (eg, the speed of light, the charge of an electron) have caused us and the universe to exist. If any of these numbers were just fractionally different, nothing would exist. How were the values of these numbers set?

That was what Imagine was saying, a few posts back. That must be the book he was referring to....

[bigmarco]

But, do you get the feeling that a god had a hand in it all somewhere along the line?

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

[lastlid]

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

Snap. Same here. Amazing.

[Iani]

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

Thanks for sharing that fella, that is really respectful, and the love for your woman really comes out in that

We can be different, but respect and love for all she is, is paramount

[imagine]

That was what Imagine was saying, a few posts back. That must be the book he was referring to....

not the same book but sounds very similar ,

i done a google search to try find the author, i couldnt believe just how many books videos etc with the same title, so i failed to find, but maybe my dementia will give me a break at some point

[lastlid]

we may have learnt many things about our existance, but we will never stop learning, i dont believe there is one simple answer or that science is anywhere near the answer,

quote some words from a song,,,,,,,the more we find out the less we know

[lastlid]

A very good question and I simply don't know.

I'm sure that there is no "interventionlist" god, who has any affect or influence on us. However, there are plenty of unasnswered questions, especially concerning what happened before the big bang. Our physics and mathematics break down at that point, so it's difficult to know anything about that time (although strictly, "time" didn't exist then)!

However, it is possible that some form of "higher intelligence" was at work. It's difficult to conceive that the universe is here as a billions to one chance occurrence.

I've read plenty of books on this sort of thing. One of the best was "6 numbers" by Martin Rees. It explains how 6 physical constants (eg, the speed of light, the charge of an electron) have caused us and the universe to exist. If any of these numbers were just fractionally different, nothing would exist. How were the values of these numbers set?

Cheers for that.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-Six-Num.../dp/0753810220

[bigmac]

another point to consider---the reference to the philippines being a strongly christian country---by that--it means predominantly roman catholic--which--as far as i know --is a minority religion in this country. all part of the culture shock.

[grahamw48]

Not mentioning anyone in particular here! In fact I'm not really thinking of anyone on this forum/thread.

However there is another thread on this forum, where some said that they don't like UK women/men, don't like their "values", don't like the way they behave around town, drinking to excess, showing off their tasteless tattoos and puking in unison.

Surely anyone with this belief couldn't ever post on this thread, attacking religion (I'm not saying they have)

It would not be making too many assumptions, that these members have partners who are pinoy - nature of this forum, just like the fact I post on a movie forum suggests I like movies.

This would mean that firstly, by attacking the beliefs of their partners (As opposed to say just accepting difference of opinion) they were being quite disrespectful towards their loved ones, who by experience I would guess were at least in passing religious - most people I have met from Phils are at least moderately religious. One thing about religious believers, is that they are easily offended if you attack their belief.

Secondly and ironically, they are attacking one of the very things core to the attitude and beliefs of their partners - one of the very things that attracted them to their partners in the first place, maybe they even went out to Phils to find their partner on purpose.

Maybe such a poster would be better off finding a nice atheist fat tattood drunk called Shazza from Slough. Three kids, three different dads (not sure though which men they were, too many Stellas that night innit)

Point is, someone can't be your soulmate if such an important part of what they are, and what makes them what they are, is something to be treated with derision.

I think it's just as unreasonable to make assumptions about Atheists as it is to make them about religious types.

My Filipina wife (for 15 years...ie, longer than most on here) was an Atheist and yes, had 3 children, each to a different father... though what relevance that has to her religion or lack of it, I'm not sure about.

Some Atheists (like myself) wouldn't be so ignorant or insensitive as to directly criticise the beliefs of others in their presence, or to cause them to feel awkward about their beliefs and customs.

Atheism is not a religion or a 'type', and with most that I know of, neither is it a 'crusade', which is perhaps why we come in so many varieties and are able to easily assimilate into most societies without whining incessantly or fighting amongst ourselves.
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[KeithD]

The answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is a nice cup of coffee

[lastlid]

[grahamw48]

Well, I'll have another go at turning this water into wine...going to crack it one day.

[lastlid]

[wayne]

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

ohh that is so sweet!!

[fred]

ohh that is so sweet!!

I agree Wayne...
The woman in that video made it to heaven because she very kindly donated her organs too the sick and needy.
Very sweet indeed.

[Arthur Little]

I agree Wayne...
The woman in that video made it to heaven because she very kindly donated her organs too the sick and needy.
Very sweet indeed.

's what it's all about ... WHATEVER "it" is ... religious or not!

[bigmac]

The woman in that video made it to heaven because she very kindly donated her organs too the sick and needy.

ha ha ha ha ---very good: i went to my elderly neighbours funeral today--& reading that comment has cheered me up no end. lol lol

[wayne]

The woman in that video made it to heaven because she very kindly donated her organs too the sick and needy.

ha ha ha ha ---very good: i went to my elderly neighbours funeral today--& reading that comment has cheered me up no end. lol lol

booommm

[wayne]

's what it's all about ... WHATEVER "it" is ... religious or not!

its a big lol watever!! its all about religion not donating organs.. its ok

[Arthur Little]

i went to my elderly neighbours funeral today --& reading that comment has cheered me up no end. lol lol

That reminds me ... I once went to the WRONG funeral! ... that cheered 'the Boss' [on here] up ... even earned me some valuable rep!

[Arthur Little]

I once went to the WRONG funeral! ...

... 2 years have "passed" away since that "fateful" day ... but the faux "pas" still brings a to my face.

[Arthur Little]

i went to my elderly neighbours funeral today---no end. lol lol

Except it WAS "an end" ... for the neighbour concerned ... a DEAD end, sadly!

[Arthur Little]

Joking apart ... "last words" on the Forum's [not Darwin's] "Theories of Evolution, based on the following quotation:

i went to my elderly neighbour's funeral today

Surely that sums "it"(along with #50) up; i.e., attending a person's funeral symbolises respect FOR the dead ... in the same manner as (to reiterate what I mentioned in #7) "it is incumbent on ALL of us to show respect TO the LIVING - regardless of religious and/or non religious beliefs".

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[grahamw48]

I thank KLM for supplying the plane and pilot that flew me to the Philippines.

[Arthur Little]

I thank KLM for supplying the plane and pilot that flew me to the Philippines.

... WHO put the colours in the rainbow?

wasn't mankind ... any more than Messrs 'Holland & Barrett' were responsible for creating Dutch firm KLM that supplied the

[lastlid]

In many ways, we are lucky to be on the planet at all. Spinning on an axis that is likely to tilt a good number of degrees at any time in the future and might well flip 180 degrees in the more distant future or at least its magnetic poles will. Who's in charge of that? Bound to upset the applecart on earth a little.

Hang on to your hats!