Tax increases on Tobacco products to be at least 1000% by 2017.
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...s-sin-tax-bill
Tax increases on Tobacco products to be at least 1000% by 2017.
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...s-sin-tax-bill
Excellent
Perhaps not for the 2.9 million Filipinos dependent on the Tobacco industry.
Originally Posted by bigmarco
Yes. Two sides to the story. Personally I think it is a good move for healths sake and may bring in extra revenue to the government coffers that they can (hopefully) spend on pressing issues.Drilon argued that the sin tax measure is a health measure, noting that Filipinos smoke 10.7 million sticks per day, including children as young as 13.
Looks like they are attempting overnight eradication though.
Excellent... but such a remark
"sounds" to me, very much like an ...
... "I'm alright, Jack" attitude - coming from someone who's either NEVER smoked or has, at some point, successfully managed to QUIT the habit once and for all!
Coming from someone who's ex wife smoked like a chimney and was responsible for asthma in our two children. Both children were hospitalised as babies because of it - both passive smokers who had no choice in the matter at all.
The foetus takes the smoke in too.
Children and passive smoking
"Breathing in secondhand smoke is particularly harmful for children. Children who breathe in secondhand smoke have an increased risk of:
cot death (sudden infant death syndrome or SIDS) - this is twice as likely in babies whose mothers smoke
developing asthma - smoking can also trigger asthma attacks in children who already have the condition
serious respiratory (breathing) conditions such as bronchitis and pneumonia - younger children are also much more likely to be admitted to hospital for a serious respiratory infection
meningitis
coughs and colds
middle ear disease, such as otitis media (a middle ear infection), which can cause hearing loss
Children who grow up with a parent or family member who smokes are also about twice as likely to start smoking later in life.
If you’re a parent who smokes, it will be hard to explain to your children why they shouldn’t start smoking. Try to lead by example and quit. As well as improving your heath and theirs, your children may be less likely to start smoking later in life. "
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/2289.asp...categoryid=536
... she's your ex-wife now ... and, hopefully, each of your two kids grew into normal, healthy adults - none the worse of the (often "unexplained") childhood asthma attacks that, for some equally inexplicable reason, have been known to afflict the offspring of many, many *parents - neither of *whom had ever put a cigarette to their lips.
Let me cite an example:
My own late first wife - a lifelong non-smoker - was born into a household where no one smoked ... yet suffered chronic asthmatic attacks during early adolescence.
Doctors and ENT Specialists of the time [circa early 1950s] were baffledfor a while ... until one of them suggested her symptoms might be linked to some form of nervous reaction - possibly stemming from the fact that it was unusual to find a 12-year-old coping with numerous domestic duties on top of her schoolwork - because her mother suffered from acute rheumatoid arthritis ... which eventually left the latter very badly crippled and unable to perform the most basic household tasks.
She ... my late wife ... somewhat ironically, developed 'Rheumatoid' herself (NOT, of course, Arthuritis, I would hasten to add!) in later life and, despite having never ever smoked, died from a particularly malignant form of cancer at the early age of 52.
Just watch the cheap imports from China go through the roof if this comes in
cigarettes are certainly not cheap here in the uk £9 a packet but many people carry on smoking
Bringing in these kind of taxes just effects the poor
They went after the smokers in the uk and now its the turn of drinkers
fat people are on the list as well........................
"well its bad for you so lets tax it even more" easy targets diba
Like all those green taxes on long haul flights = just another way to get more money out of us
I think you have more faith in the government over there than i do........
Precisely what I'd been going to say, ALSO ... but you've saved me the trouble!
Anyway, folks,it's time I went off to bed for a few hours' kip ... if only for the sake of separating me from my favourite 'briar' for a few hours.
Goodnight, all!
I can see that point but its pretty obvious, in hindsight, that the two went hand in glove. And now my daughter is 30 yo, she knows herself what the cause was.
Let me cite an example:
My own late first wife - a lifelong non-smoker - was born into a household where no one smoked ... yet suffered chronic asthmatic attacks during early adolescence.
Doctors and ENT Specialists of the time [circa early 1950s] were baffled
I also know that from personal experience, if I am in a room full of cigarette smoke, on a bad day it affects my breathing too!
I would like to turn the "alright Jack" comment around and say that for many smokers it can be a case of "I am alright Jack" with little regard for the consequences of their habit on others.
Some of us are a little wiser now and realise that smoking is not only harmful to ourselves but also harmful to those within the smokers vicinity. For others it is a case of don't know or don't care or both.
I am not so certain we are talking inexplicable here. Inhaling smoke is surely a very explicable reason for asthma, especially in the young or unborn.
Let me cite an example:
My own late first wife - a lifelong non-smoker - was born into a household where no one smoked ... yet suffered chronic asthmatic attacks during early adolescence.
Doctors and ENT Specialists of the time [circa early 1950s] were baffled
Yes, fair point.
i was born into a household that everyone smoked except my mum, in the end there was 15 of us and only 2 not smoking, look at me i am ok i think, would i blame them if i was not, not at all, its what we thought at the time was right,anyway back to putting tobacco up, drinks , tabacco, flights, cars,it seems any pleasure we get in life is taxed, will there be a sex tax i wonder
It must be okay then Steve. You have just proved that.
Carry on smoking guys and girls!
in them days before there was warnings about your health, they was promoting tabacco everywhere, its good for you , you get the best women, you are a man, just look at the adverts, but in this modern day of what is bad for you, things have changed, we are all going to die one day, whether its the fags yousmoked, the eggs you ate, the butter you put on the bread even the cabbage you ate too,plus today being a so called a healthy living,its down to each of us whether we smoked in the days i mentioned we kids did not have a choice,now if my partner smoked, she would not be my partner, that is the choice i would make, hard yes but its my choice no one elses
You have a choice Steve, so do I. Our unborn kids don't have a choice and neither do the very young. It used to be that some adults had little choice, but with the new regulations in the UK and other countries that is changing rapidly.
Anyhow, don't take my word for it. Have a look at what the experts say.
Here is some good material on the matter. Theres is heaps out there.
"Why is it so dangerous to smoke during pregnancy?
Cigarette smoke contains more than 4,000 chemicals, including truly nasty things like cyanide, lead, and at least 60 cancer-causing compounds. When you smoke during pregnancy, that toxic brew gets into your bloodstream, your baby's only source of oxygen and nutrients.
While none of those 4,000-plus chemicals is good for your baby (you would never add a dollop of lead and cyanide to his strained peaches), two compounds are especially harmful: nicotine and carbon monoxide. These two toxins account for almost every smoking-related complication in pregnancy, says ob-gyn James Christmas, director of Maternal Fetal Medicine for Commonwealth Perinatal Associates at Henrico Doctors' Hospital in Richmond, Virginia."
http://www.babycenter.com/0_how-smok...aby_1405720.bc
what the experts say, but its what the real people do for themselves, like many have said, its down to each of us whether we smoke, dont smoke and so on, no one smokes in my house my car, and if i am working in the lorries that too, infact no one smokes around me at all, unless i go into their house, thats my choice, lots of my older family has started to not smoke so better late then never for them, i am lucky too with 4 of my children not smoking but alas 1 still does, dont know why, she does not know why either, its a drug, if only we had all this information years ago would it make a difference i dont think so
I'm sure that wont happen by 2017. The vast majority of the land that grows tobacco is probably owned by political families or there allies. If they did raise the taxes by 1,000% the tobacco industry would go under ground and the government would lose out on the taxes which they wouldn't want to happen.
I disgaree on the freedom of choice that you express. Passive smokers tend to have no choice, especially the kids and unborn. Are you saying we should be free to choose if we poison our kids? That is why the choice has to be removed and laws made on smoking in public places, because given the choice, many people would ignore the consequences of their actions.
Could be a vote loser then.
now you are being silly, you are free to poison your own children everyday with what you feed them and if you want to blow smoke into there faces everyday, thats your choice and there is nothing anyone can do about it, till its too late, the choice is down to each of us, do we go to the room where everyone smokes or not, also i am being silly too saying this, but its down to all of us to make the right choice at the right time, lots before us did not have the choice or the knowledge that we have now
So what is it that is so good about smoking?
What are the benefits? What are the plusses?
We say it is one of life's little pleasures, but what exactly is that pleasure?
From the sound of it it must be bl00dy good.
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