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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Are we talking about BOILER temperature here, or central heating THERMOSTAT setting ? Big difference.

    If it's a thermostat to control actual temperature in the rooms, then it is customary to set it to 21C for living rooms and perhaps 15C for bedrooms.

    Bear in mind that lowering the thermostat setting by 1 deg C could result in a 10% reduction on your heating bill.
    i think it's boiler temperature.. we don't have thermostat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    What about Mr. Bhem Bhem ?

    Does he not have any ideas ?
    no idea at all, i even taught him how to bleed the radiator..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    He's IN the boiler


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    If you google the boiler make and serial number there wll probably be an online manual....also general info about heating systems.

    If you can't figure it out, I'd call a 'Gas Safe' heating engineer (not a plumber)

    You'll probably save more than his fee on reduced gas bills.


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    Radiators are only heated when the boiler is 'on', the radiator valves open, and the time clock is switched to "on".
    Even then if the room thermostat senses that the room temperature is at the required level, the boiler will not come on.
    If the room thermostat is set at 20 deg.C and senses that the room temperature is registering 20 deg.C , then the boiler will not operate and the radiators will cool down.
    The radiators will remain cool until the air temperature falls and the room thermostat calls for more heat.
    If radiators are heating up unevenly they may need "bleeding".

    If you can't get your system to behave after all the advice, better you spend some money now to put it right than be cold and need to pay for a very high gas bill.

    Is your shower an electric shower or is it connected to the hot water system?


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    If you google the boiler make and serial number there wll probably be an online manual....also general info about heating systems.

    If you can't figure it out, I'd call a 'Gas Safe' heating engineer (not a plumber)

    You'll probably save more than his fee on reduced gas bills.
    Yeah will do, its better than paying massive bills.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Radiators are only heated when the boiler is 'on', the radiator valves open, and the time clock is switched to "on".
    Even then if the room thermostat senses that the room temperature is at the required level, the boiler will not come on.
    If the room thermostat is set at 20 deg.C and senses that the room temperature is registering 20 deg.C , then the boiler will not operate and the radiators will cool down.
    The radiators will remain cool until the air temperature falls and the room thermostat calls for more heat.
    If radiators are heating up unevenly they may need "bleeding".

    If you can't get your system to behave after all the advice, better you spend some money now to put it right than be cold and need to pay for a very high gas bill.

    Is your shower an electric shower or is it connected to the hot water system?
    It's connected to the hot water system..


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    Quote Originally Posted by bhem_bhem View Post
    when i go on shower, i noticed that it took ages to warm the water and it's hard to get the temperature right coz it sometimes suddenly turns cold. my living room is quite a long room but i've got 2 big radiators on there.

    looks like i really need to ask someone to check it.
    From what you describe it does sound like a scale/sludge problem.As I said before best have it checked out for confirmation as there are other possibilities.Dirty or partially blocked fan venturi`s can also cause the boiler to cycle on and off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete/London View Post
    From what you describe it does sound like a scale/sludge problem.As I said before best have it checked out for confirmation as there are other possibilities.Dirty or partially blocked fan venturi`s can also cause the boiler to cycle on and off.
    yeah,, will do as i'm really worried of our bill this month.. thnx..


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    Taking a shower and the water suddenly turns cold? Now this I have heard of (from experience). Could be a number of things - pressure dropped in the equaliser (not sure of it's real name) inside the boiler. Water pressure not up to correct level, faulty thermostat etc.
    Common theme - the boiler needs looking at.

    As for the thermostat being at 75 degrees, well that must be the boiler and therefore water in the radiators temperature (Couldn't possibly be the room thermostat for glaringly obvious reasons). 75 should be ample for getting the house really warm, I think mine is set at about 60.
    You won't really get hammered for the gas bill setting the boiler temp higher, as it will get the rooms warmer faster, and should then switch off, however it is more efficient to have the temperature lower, so that the boiler condenses at optimum level. These boilers at full whack run at about 24kw but once it settles into a steady running, this will drop to about 7kw I'm told.

    If your boiler though is only a year old, no way should this not be heating the house.

    You really need it looked at.

    I'm one to talk though, I sit under a duvet most nights with the heat off


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iani View Post
    Taking a shower and the water suddenly turns cold? Now this I have heard of (from experience). Could be a number of things - pressure dropped in the equaliser (not sure of it's real name) inside the boiler. Water pressure not up to correct level, faulty thermostat etc.
    Common theme - the boiler needs looking at.

    As for the thermostat being at 75 degrees, well that must be the boiler and therefore water in the radiators temperature (Couldn't possibly be the room thermostat for glaringly obvious reasons). 75 should be ample for getting the house really warm, I think mine is set at about 60.
    You won't really get hammered for the gas bill setting the boiler temp higher, as it will get the rooms warmer faster, and should then switch off, however it is more efficient to have the temperature lower, so that the boiler condenses at optimum level. These boilers at full whack run at about 24kw but once it settles into a steady running, this will drop to about 7kw I'm told.

    If your boiler though is only a year old, no way should this not be heating the house.

    You really need it looked at.

    I'm one to talk though, I sit under a duvet most nights with the heat off
    Yeah, I've read the manual but I couldn't understand it. Too much for my little brain to handle. I'll best leave it to the expert..


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    i hope you are not still wearing your short shorts and flip flops, try wearing a hat and even a jumper, do lots of housework and if that all fails stay in bed with a hot water bottle, plus wear some good thick socks, heating on BAA HUMBUG


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    I switch our heating on and off as required, cos I dont know how to set the timer, but we never have it on during the night, I hope you get yours sorted bhem bhem!!


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    thats how i do it Michael, i always ask Ems do you want the heating on with a growl in my voice ,


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    i hope you are not still wearing your short shorts and flip flops, try wearing a hat and even a jumper, do lots of housework and if that all fails stay in bed with a hot water bottle, plus wear some good thick socks, heating on BAA HUMBUG
    no way i can wear short shorts at this time.. i'm wrapped up with fleece jim jams, fleece dressing gown and fleece blanket plus my hot water bottle.. when i'm in bed i use 2 duvets, one is 15 tog and the other is 10.5 tog, one on top of the other and again with my hot water bottle..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    I switch our heating on and off as required, cos I dont know how to set the timer, but we never have it on during the night, I hope you get yours sorted bhem bhem!!
    thnx mike.. we only use it between 4-10pm, we turn it off before we go to bed..


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    you will get use to it soon, best way all the time is to wear layers,the house is cold this time of year, its the damp weather that is making it this way, i must admit Ems has got use to this weather and you will too, wait until its snowing then you will enjoy it better


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    i always ask Ems do you want the heating on with a growl in my voice ,
    hubby do that as well,,


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    have you got any thermal cloths, teeshirt vest and leggings, they do help, primark sells them , even i wear the teeshirts


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    you will get use to it soon, best way all the time is to wear layers,the house is cold this time of year, its the damp weather that is making it this way, i must admit Ems has got use to this weather and you will too, wait until its snowing then you will enjoy it better
    it didn't bother me before but i'm aching lately.. i'm not sure but i think i've got arthritis.. my knee and back drive me mad..

    if my memory serves me right, last 20009 winter was bad but then i'm not bothered. i even played outside even if the snow was 16cm thick i think (i'm not keen of snow btw lol)..


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    have you got any thermal cloths, teeshirt vest and leggings, they do help, primark sells them , even i wear the teeshirts
    yeah,, i wear leggings or thermal knee pad under my jeans when i go out..


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    well it may be best then for you and hubby to get back to the hils as soon as possible, its not as cold there as here i dont think


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    i really wish..


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    we are going back next xmas for a months holiday, should be nice in bohol at that time warm seas and blue skies, nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by bhem_bhem View Post
    it didn't bother me before but i'm aching lately.. i'm not sure but i think i've got arthritis.. my knee and back drive me mad..

    if my memory serves me right, last 20009 winter was bad but then i'm not bothered. i even played outside even if the snow was 16cm thick i think (i'm not keen of snow btw lol)..
    Just a tip as regards winter clothing:

    Try to buy outer garments (jumpers/cardigans etc) made from WOOL rather than man-made fibres like Acrilan. They are so much warmer. Man-made fibres are just CHEAP.

    I've noticed the difference from when we were kids and always wore clothes made from cotton or wool. We were much cosier, although our clothes needed a bit more care. Well worth it.


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    Bhem Bhem - if the heating used to work fine and doesn't now then get a heating engineer out to check it. This is the time of year boilers tend to break down as they are under the greatest load. Also, if the boiler is inside your house (and not in the garage or similar) and it is faulty it could be leaking carbon monoxide into the house - this is a deadly killer, you simply won't wake up one morning if you get gassed, no smell, invisible, tasteless. So have Mr Bhem Bhem get his wallet out and call an engineer!

    Btw, my Rose drifts around the house in next to no clothing most of the time, even when I'm complaining about being chilly! Guess I got a good one

    Btw2 our heating has also gone wrong. I'm renting a place for a year and we're waiting for the landlord's plumber. I wish he had British Gas Homecare ... Luckily I managed to get ours running for a while to warm things up.


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    long ago when i was poor, we had our holidays at skegness home a place where your parents could send the kids on a holiday for free, anyway in those days everything was made of wool, gloves, balaclava hats and even 1 lad had woolen swimming trunks, they looked great before he went in swimming in the north sea, but when he came out he looked like he was pulling a long trawler net behind him, he did not wear them again


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    thnx.. if i could i would wear ski suit everyday..

    i remember i used to go out drinking with my friends in my skirt or dress,, i can't do it anymore,, too cold for me.. oh my days..


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    long ago when i was poor, we had our holidays at skegness home a place where your parents could send the kids on a holiday for free, anyway in those days everything was made of wool, gloves, balaclava hats and even 1 lad had woolen swimming trunks, they looked great before he went in swimming in the north sea, but when he came out he looked like he was pulling a long trawler net behind him, he did not wear them again
    Ah those woollen trunks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor View Post
    Bhem Bhem - if the heating used to work fine and doesn't now then get a heating engineer out to check it. This is the time of year boilers tend to break down as they are under the greatest load. Also, if the boiler is inside your house (and not in the garage or similar) and it is faulty it could be leaking carbon monoxide into the house - this is a deadly killer, you simply won't wake up one morning if you get gassed, no smell, invisible, tasteless. So have Mr Bhem Bhem get his wallet out and call an engineer!

    Btw, my Rose drifts around the house in next to no clothing most of the time, even when I'm complaining about being chilly! Guess I got a good one

    Btw2 our heating has also gone wrong. I'm renting a place for a year and we're waiting for the landlord's plumber. I wish he had British Gas Homecare ... Luckily I managed to get ours running for a while to warm things up.
    it was warm when we had our boiler so we didn't know something's wrong with it.. oh i wish i can do that here, wear clothes next to nothing, hubby will be pleased.


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