Nothing like posting something you know people are going to get bit worked up about it's a healthy hobby and many of us love it it's our guilty pleasure
Nothing like posting something you know people are going to get bit worked up about it's a healthy hobby and many of us love it it's our guilty pleasure
I think we've come along way in the last 10 years , what with the introduction of the civil partnerships and same sex couples now having the same rights as married couples for the benefits of pensions etc etc. I can remember 8 years ago when my father died and phoning up to get my mums pension sorted and being told that because they were not married she couldn't be classed as a widow. 56 years together, along with 5 children, their own jointly owned property counted for nothing in the eyes of DWP. So excuse me for thinking that same sex couples are not getting a bad deal at the moment.
See I think we're allowed to petition Government for rights and changes to laws because that's what they are there for. If we don't like something we try and change it or vote somebody else in.
However the Church is different and particularly the Catholic Church. You cant bully or harass the church to change because you disagree. The Catholic church has some strong principles some of which I agree with and some I don't. It's is against same sex marriage and it is against adoption of children by same sex couples and they don't seem inclined to change their stance any year soon. So I disagree with trying to portray the Churches as out of touch with modern society. Instead respect their thousands of years of traditions and their rights just the same as you and I not to welcome you into their house if they so chose.
Good point bigmarco
Blimey....don't remember hearing the last bit in Church.
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23 By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.
27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.
29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.
Lot and His Daughters
30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”
33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.
Another Jimmy saville post
Noah's Ark and the parting of the waves i am sure its all trueOriginally Posted by grahamw48
Blimey....don't remember hearing the last bit in Church.
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23 By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.
27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.
29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.
Lot and His Daughters
30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”
33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.
Just a sec there, no one is harrasing them... In other places where it is legalized, it is left to the decision of the priest / parish to decide whether they will marry a couple or not, so I don't see the problem here, the law would work to the favour of those priests that actually want same-sex couples to come to them and get married, nothing else.
Besides, silly as it may seem, the church is also trying to keep it's (gay) believers in today's atheistic world...
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