RE 13a
I have read elsewhere that from the 1st of December 2012, an alien who has resided in the Philippines for less than 6 months "shall attach to his application, police clearance from his country of origin". Would I be right in assuming that they are asking for a CRB check?
Bill
Yeah,less than 6 months UK Police clearance( I think that a CRB is all the Old bill in the UK can issue but ask them as its so long now that I cant remember, All I seem to remember is that it took 4 months to get the damned thing!)..
More than 6 months you will need an NBI clearance.
Better now to apply in the UK IMO..
A person is unable to obtain a CRB check on themseves in the UK. The only possible way is either an expense via an agency, usually around £40 - £60 or by a Data Subject Access Request (DSAR or SAR) to the Police HQ in the area you live (costs £10)
Be aware with a SAR that this will contain every thing that the police hold on you including non criminal visits to your home and any arrests whether or not you have been charged, motoring tickets, parking tickets and cautions with the exception of the details of reasons for the penalties.
Example if you have been convicted to theft and sent to prison for 3 months your SAR will show as 1 x 3 months jail. You will then need to explain why
Actually you CAN get a DBS (formerly CRB ) check for yourself now.Originally Posted by Wiltshireman
On the 1st of December 2012, the Criminal Records Bureau in the UK became the Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) and made it possible to obtain a Basic Disclosure for yourself at a cost of £25 pounds. It is available from https://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk/apply-online/ This service covers the whole of the UK and NOT just Scotland. Apparently there is a spoof website with a very similar address which will charge you £41 and simply re direct you to the proper site.
I received mine last Thursday and they are very quick. I then forwarded it to the Philippine Embassy, London, for Legalisation/Authentication at a cost of £18.
The more cynical amongst us may point to the Philippine Government simply seizing an opportunity to exploit us poor expats even further but, the British Government is no better, charging an eye watering £25 for a single sheet of headed A4 which must have take all of 2 minutes to produce.
Good post, good info and good link. Thank you
Can you tell me the process i have to do when forwarded the police check to the embassy,i have to do the same and would just like to understand what exact actions i need to take.
Hi Paul,
Happy to help. This link will take you to where you want to be http://philembassy-uk.org/consular-matters/legalization
I had to read it a few times before it sank in (it's an age thing!) but in simple terms it means this: get an £18 postal order made payable to the Philippine Embassy (the Post Office counter staff can print this onto the postal order for you or just write it on) it will cost you about £20.50. Take 2 envelopes with you. 1 of them addressed to: The Authentication Section, Philippine Embassy, 6-8 Suffolk Street, London. SW1Y 4HG. Make the other one registered and address it to yourself. Not sure but I think it costs about £2 (Well it is 3 days ago) to make your self addressed envelope registered.
Bang Stamps on BOTH envelopes, whack everything into the one addressed to the Embassy and post it.
It is worth noting that you CAN'T pay for the postal order with your bank card so it is cash only. Yes I know, here we are in 2013, it's 44 years since we put men on the moon and we still can't pay for a postal order with our bank cards!! Unbelievable.
Hope this helps, Good luck mate. Bill
Thanks Bill,that is really helpful for me.I was fortunate to see this thread because i didn't even know i had to do a CRB check but i've applyed for check and it's being processed now.
The requirement "He is not afflicted with any dangerous, contagious or loathsome disease."
Do i need to do anything for that? it wasn't mentioned as requirement when my fiancée rang immigration but is mentioned on immigration bureau website.
I presume you are applying from the UK. No police check if you do it from phills.
Unfortunately this is not true.. They have been especially strict just lately..
Less than 6 months in R.P= UK Police clearance..
More than 6 months, UK Police clearance + NBI clearance.
Just done mine in phills no police check. seems strange as only two years ago i think they abolished police and health checks for applications in phills.
Last edited by jonnijon; 17th February 2013 at 11:55. Reason: need to add
these maybe things i need to learn for later,
hope no one minds me butting in to ask,
NBI clearance. is that philippine version of the uk CRB ?
Well yeah i think it is imagine ...
NBI clearance. is that philippine version of the uk CRB ?
This is all new to me...
I just received the document from the coppers and put it together with my other requirements including medical etc... They (the R.P embassy in London) accepted the Police clearance (or whatever it was) without asking me to have it authenticated.
You only need this if you are applying in the R.P.. Its a Philippine police clearance.NBI clearance. is that Philippine version of the uk CRB ?
Much better to apply in the UK as you will receive a permanent visa..
Apply here and they will issue with a temporary visa good for one year...After that year you will need to apply to make it permanent. More expense and time wasting hassle!!
If thats the cost of it all Fred its cheaper to do it in the Philippines.
Yes it probably is... I would still highly recommend that if they do it here they take this CRB authenticated document with them as some new applicants here in the R.P have been asked to provide it..
How I wish I had taken more notice at school!!
Bill..As I said..The process was a pain in the ass..
Thing is though,ever since I got the visa, it was/is a huge relief that all I need to do now is report once a year and pay 310.00 Pesos.
No pain no gain..
That said... Whatever works for you.
Cheers,
Fred.
does anyone know if having the 13a . affects your right to uk state pension ?
If you do decide to retire here you wont be taxed on your pension.does anyone know if having the 13a . affects your right to uk state pension ?
Here is the list of countries that have a social security agreement with the UK.
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/international/...-of-countries/
Last edited by jake; 20th February 2013 at 10:30. Reason: add on
thanks
It depends on the pension(s) you have and whether you have a BIR TIN number or not.
Very important.
But in principle yes, correct.
BIR TIN number ?It depends on the pension(s) you have and whether you have a BIR TIN number or not.
Very important.
But in principle yes, correct.
A BIR tin number is a kind of Philippine tax code,I think..BIR TIN number ?
Not sure what the tax rules are for dual citizens but I think they only pay tax on money earned here in the R.P..
I dont think that their UK pension is taxable here..In fact Im sure its not.
The NBI is the same as our CRB, also the 13A won't affect your state pension and you will also recieve your annual pension increases Imagine!
thanks michael, 6 years to go yet for pension, but the 13a will be needed sooner, so didnt want to risk my pensionThe NBI is the same as our CRB, also the 13A won't affect your state pension and you will also recieve your annual pension increases Imagine!
You're welcome Stewart!
why get a 13a ? if your married it only lasts for a year and takes about 3 months to get and the money to you have to go manila for this long waiting why not get a ticket to another country with wife couple days then go back phil your both togeather so would get to stay for 1 year no cost as your married i just got back from phil 2 months there i was going for a 13a but waiting 3 months and you still have to pay visa extention which is more than a ticket to say macau for you both
Hawk..
You are wrong. The visa we are talking about is PERMANENT if applied for in the UK.
Its temporary for one year if applied for in the R.P ..After that year, you can apply to make it a permanent visa.
Please try to be careful of publishing facts when in fact they are utter TOSH!!
Cheers,
Fred.
ok sorry must have missed the part permernt
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