Paid ticket and i've been scammed?!

[imagine]

i got a letter from my bank sometime last year, to say that my debit card was now covered in the same way as my credit card,
whether this applies to all debit cards i dont know, mine is with rsb

[KeithD]

Marlyn, you should get the money back, but it can take a bit longer than if you had used a credit card as it's a different procedure they use.

[sars_notd_virus]

Sorry to read about this sis Marlyn
call your bank and cancel your debit card.

[stevewool]

always pay large amounts on a credit card, then pay it later with your debit card, hope it all works out well for you both

[marlyn&kenny]

You need to contact Google Adwords and inform them of the ad fraud to prevent others getting done.

The laws changed with regard to debit cards last year in your favour, so the bank will help, just make sure you have spoken with their fraud department.

Tell them the UK Police, UK Trading Standards, and the bank are dealing with the issue.

As this company has all your details cancel your debit card asap, and keep an eye for identity theft.

sorry , I PAID IT through DIRECT BANK TRANSFERS guys
spoke to our bank and they said there is nothing they can do as it is bank transfers, we even argue with them that even if we are scammed? and they wont do anything to investigate this lloyds tsb business account with them. The bank is our only hope. we will try to speak to our local branch and see if they can help us with our evidence that this company we bought the ticket from is a fraudulent and scam company. thank you all for your inputs and advice. it is so frustrating and dis appointing that action fraud department said they receive like 10 reports everyday so they will just choose which one worth investigating to and they said they might not do further investigation to our case. and they advice us not to speak with this people again as they are criminal, but they can not promise us that they wil do an investigation!! so so unfair...
so they are just letting this criminals ripped peoples and walk away .. I bet these criminals scammers already know how the system works, how this so called action fraud department works, that is why they just do more crimes and get away with it because they know that action fraud police department will not pursue any further investigation!
so dis appointed of how they handle our case. we got nor more hope really.. thought their mission is to bring those criminals to justice!! but NO, they are just choosing which case to investigate!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[imagine]

no wonder scamming is ripe, sorry to read they dont seem bothered to back you up and investigate these criminals,
i hope you can find some way to get help

[marlyn&kenny]

Marlyn, you should get the money back, but it can take a bit longer than if you had used a credit card as it's a different procedure they use.

hi,
we have spoke to our bank and NO there is nothing they can do about it because i paid those p*** through direct bank transfer. gets from bad to worst !

action force police said, don not speak to them any-more as these are criminals!! Yes they are criminals YET they are taking their time to do something about it!!! and might not do any further investigation she said, they are only relying to whatever information we can add to our report!

they said those people who scammed us are criminals ! BUT THEY ARE LETTING THIS CRIMINALS GET AWAY WITH IT!

[KeithD]

I've never heard of anyone paying for a flight with a bank transfer, that's not much difference than using Western Union, a red flag. You have pretty much lost the money then in that case.

The police won't be able to do anything as you moved funds offshore yourself, and the site is not EU based.

[joebloggs]

the police will not get involved. they have a london base, yet if you steal something from a supermarket worth £1 they will arrest you

[Dedworth]

If these scammers are UK based (Reading / London ?) and you feel that whatever Police Force you reported it too (you state "action Force Police" - who are they ??) has not taken your report seriously then I'd guess your only course of action is to complain about this Police Force to the Independent Police Complaints Commission http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/default.aspx and perhaps try to involve your MP.

Did you report it to the Police face to face and get a crime report number ?

[Doc Alan]

Agreed Ded
Perhaps my #27 was missed -

I am so sorry to read about this Marlyn and Kenny.


We all sympathise and hope this will be resolved quickly. Good advice has already been given.


Don’t limit yourselves to phone calls. You should visit the police station – with Kenny – and insist that you wish to make a full statement to a detective. He ( or she ) should then make an appointment to visit you at home. If there is not significant progress then write to the police, stating that if they do not reply within 10 working days, you will issue a formal complaint to the Independent Police Complaints Commission ( http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/default.aspx ).


No one has been injured but this nonetheless appears to be economic crime and deserves to be treated seriously.

[Dedworth]

Quite right Doc - I think what is highly relevant from both your posts is to visit the Police Station and report it in person. I hope Marlyn & Kenny can get this sorted, it is a nasty con trick

[Doc Alan]

I have given this advice separately to Kenny - who is a good man and I know will fully support Marlyn.

[imagine]

i dont know if this site can be of any use to you, check it out on the link,

maybe other members can check it out and see what they think too

http://www.canyoutrustthem.com/

[grahamw48]

Thanks Stewart. Excellent idea, that site.

Publicity is the enemy of con-men.

Online 'reviews' , the enemy of companies, products and 'services'.

A genuinely useful feature of the internet.

[imagine]

Thanks Stewart. Excellent idea, that site.

Publicity is the enemy of con-men.

Online 'reviews' , the enemy of companies, products and 'services'.

A genuinely useful feature of the internet.

it does look hopeful, and at the least it will warn others

found the link in my favourites, i cant remember how i originaly come to have it, its possible it may have been from a members post some time back here on our forum

[marlyn&kenny]

Agreed Ded
Perhaps my #27 was missed -

I am so sorry to read about this Marlyn and Kenny.


We all sympathise and hope this will be resolved quickly. Good advice has already been given.


Don’t limit yourselves to phone calls. You should visit the police station – with Kenny – and insist that you wish to make a full statement to a detective. He ( or she ) should then make an appointment to visit you at home. If there is not significant progress then write to the police, stating that if they do not reply within 10 working days, you will issue a formal complaint to the Independent Police Complaints Commission ( http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/default.aspx ).


No one has been injured but this nonetheless appears to be economic crime and deserves to be treated seriously.

Hi Doc, Thank you so much for all your concern,
Me and kenny already reported to action fraud and they are taking their time so we follow your advice, kenny rang the independent police to file a complain and they also advice us to speak to the duty inspector base in london and all they say is, it is down to the action force who are private agency to deal with this . there is nothing they can do ! absolutely useless. kenny give them an example, if a boy knick a bar of chocolate in the shop,worth £1, they will send a police man straight away. but with our case they can not do anything because this ACTION FRAUD agency took over their Job!! Pathetic!

The manager of DAVIDSON HOUSE READING rang me earlier and confirm that RANAVENTURE are scammers, He said I am the Fifth victim of these people, they already managed to scam more than £7000 in total , he also reported this to action fraud.

[marlyn&kenny]

all police in all areas said it not their job anymore to deal with online fraud!

[South-east boy]

all police in all areas said it not their job anymore to deal with online fraud!

So sorry to hear this. Like you say, no wonder these scammers start up and rip people off, if nothing is done to stop them!

[joebloggs]

[jakeob]

Dont suppose the Building Manager has an idea where these scum live??

If the Police arent willing to help, i think i would be tempted to pay this lot a visit with a few of my mates

[KeithD]

Did you ask the bank to reverse the transaction as it was a mistake?

[Terpe]

That's a good link joebloggs

I must admit, it's something I had no idea about.

Unbelievable. If someones comes to your house and steals £500 the police will be there in force.
If someone comes to your house and gets £500 by fraud, then nothing from anyone bad luck mate.

[joebloggs]

you would think it was easy enough for the to phone the number on the website, say you want to pay cash and collect the ticket and nab them , (just as dedworth phoned them and asked where they were )

a post on another forum

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTop...ir_Travel.html



are you the poster Marlyn ?

[imagine]

was safer in the days of a pocketful of cash,

[Doc Alan]

Thanks joebloggs .

I also did not know about this - outrageous, unfair, and depressing for Marlyn and Kenny ...

[KeithD]

Can somebody write a post entitled: RANA VENTURE Review: Is RANA VENTURE a SCAM?

Then start the posts first line:
Is RANA VENTURE a SCAM?

....then right a brief few sentences on why it is a scam. If anyone posts in it, please use the title in your post: Is RANA VENTURE a SCAM?

Thanks, may as well make sure it is listed clearly on Goocle.

[grahamw48]

I recommend you visit a few of your local high street travel agencies when buying air tickets. All that glitters is not gold

For the sake of £20-£50 extra, somebody else will do the searching for you, including explaining all the different journey permutations etc, AND you will receive a REAL ticket.

[marlyn&kenny]

Did you ask the bank to reverse the transaction as it was a mistake?

THEY SAID IT IS TOO LATE, AND BEFORE I COMPLETED THE ONLINE BANK TRANSFER, AN AUTOMATED MACHINE RING OUR LANDLINE TO CONFIRM TRANSFER AND ALSO I RECEIVED A TEXT FROM LLOYDS TSB ABOUT THE TRANSFER SO THEY SAID THERE IS NOTHING MORE THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT, TRANSFER IS AS GOOD AS CASH,THEY MIGHT HAVE WITHDRAW THAT MONEY FROM THEIR ACCOUNT ANYWAY , THAT'S WHAT BANK SAYS

[marlyn&kenny]

you would think it was easy enough for the to phone the number on the website, say you want to pay cash and collect the ticket and nab them , (just as dedworth phoned them and asked where they were )

a post on another forum

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTop...ir_Travel.html



are you the poster Marlyn ?

Thank you for the link Joe, NO it was not me, we lost 1715 and im so angry that some people thought we are just joking.(people we know from facebook) i can upload our bank statement to prove that i had paid this scammers through bank transfers and humiliate myself even more for my stupidity and foolishness.