thanks peter, quite a few times iv searched and read lots of threads ,having a phil bank here in uk such as pnb seems to be the cheapest and good rates,but seems i would need an account in phil too to benefit, also seems you cant open an account here unless you have one in phil 1st, anyway it also seems more hastle, transfer from a uk bank to uk phil bank the=n transfer again to philippinesand i dont have an account with a phil bank here or there yet,
hsbc to benefit needs a large amount tied up with them,
up to now i have used world remit,paid by card so card charge and to be picked up,would be cheaper if they do it bank to bank,then i guess a recieving charge by bank