thanks guys, well as i say its a gift for there new house, truth be told Ems sister asked to borrow the cash to buy it but dont tell steve she said, and she will pay her back this xmas, but Ems being a good wife told me and after talking we bost agreed it shall be a house warming gift from us to the family, the only thing i wil be asking is i want it named STEVE,, THANKS jAKE FOR THAT IDEA