filipino british passport holder

[A_flyer]

Thats a good question..
Long before the duel cit law came to pass I knew of a few Filipino`s that simply kept their old passports as they were not asked to surrender it..They simply used the old PP for Manila and their Brit PP for UK..When their old ones run out they would simply renew it when in Manila.. Totaly illegal..But nobody seemed to care back then..

I don't speak of an old expired passport but of his valid Filipino passport.

[fred]

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I don't speak of an old expired passport but of his valid Filipino passport.

Sorry..I meant passports valid at the time New brit PP issued..
As Golilocks has illustrated..They just send them back to the owner.
Although this still valid PP should not be used for travel it is advisable to take it along as proof of being a natural born Filipino..In order to recieve a Balikbayan stamp in the Brit PP.

[A_flyer]

Sorry..I meant passports valid at the time New brit PP issued..
As Golilocks has illustrated..They just send them back to the owner.
Although this still valid PP should not be used for travel it is advisable to take it along as proof of being a natural born Filipino..In order to recieve a Balikbayan stamp in the Brit PP.

If the passport is valid it can be used to travel. If she's holding both passport, she's already a bi-national (she have the Filipino citizenship and the British citizenship).

As the Philippines recognize dual citizenship and unless the new country citizenship do not recognize the dual citizenship (like Germany or Austria), you keep your original citizenship also.

So you can use the passport you want for travelling, but what I highly recommand is to use the same one when you enter and exit a country.

For example: use British passport to go out of UK, use Filipino one to enter RP and later exit RP (you will have to show your british passport as proof you can enter freely UK) and use of course British passport to enter UK. Remember that each entry/exit are recorded by immigration.

[fred]

If the passport is valid it can be used to travel. If she's holding both passport, she's already a bi-national (she have the Filipino citizenship and the British citizenship).

As the Philippines recognize dual citizenship and unless the new country citizenship do not recognize the dual citizenship (like Germany or Austria), you keep your original citizenship also.

So you can use the passport you want for travelling, but what I highly recommand is to use the same one when you enter and exit a country.

For example: use British passport to go out of UK, use Filipino one to enter RP and later exit RP (you will have to show your British passport as proof you can enter freely UK) and use of course British passport to enter UK. Remember that each entry/exit are recorded by immigration.

Yes that's exactly how the Philippine consul instructed my wife to use her and the childrens passports..After she attended the notary public and took the oath in a simple ceremony..
Just because you have two passports does not mean that you are automatically a duel citizen..




Q. What are the benefits and privileges of dual citizenship?

Dual citizens can enjoy full civil and political rights in the Philippines, including the following:

a. right to vote and be elected or appointed to any public office in the Philippines subject to existing Philippine laws,
b. right to acquire land and other properties under his name,
c. right to engage in business in the Philippines and have 100% ownership of the business,
d. right to reside in the Philippine without need of visa, and
e. right to practise profession in the Philippines upon application of a license or permit to engage in such practice

Q. What is the procedure for Philippine citizenship retention/reacquisition?

Applicants for Philippine citizenship retention/reacquisition have to submit a completed Philippine citizenship retention/reacquisition form with all the documentary requirements to the Consular Section of the Philippine Embassy. Applications have to be filed one (1) hour before the scheduled oath taking (which is at 12:30 p.m. and at 3:00 p.m., Monday to Friday, except during Philippine national holidays and UK bank holidays).

Applicants who live near any of the Philippine Honorary Consulates in Liverpool, Glasgow, Dublin and Reykjavik, may file their application in the Philippine Honorary Consulate nearest to them and take their oath before the Philippine honorary consul in the area.

Q. Can I apply for Philippine citizenship retention/reacquisition by post?

Applications can be filed by post but the applicant still have to personally appear before a consul (if abroad) or at the Bureau of Immigration (if in the Philippines) for the oath taking ceremony.

Q. What are the requirements for Philippine citizenship retention/reacquisition?

For the requirements on Philippine citizenship retention/reacquisition, please refer to the section on Retention/Reacquisition of Philippine Citizenship.

Q. What is an ACR?

An Alien Certificate of Registration (ACR) is a proof of identification as resident alien in the Philippines issued by the Bureau of Immigration to an immigrant visa holder.


Q. What is an ICR?

An Identification Certificate of Registration (ICR) is issued to a person who has acquired or retained his Philippine citizenship. A dual citizen who is previously a holder of 13(G) visa may file a petition under oath to the Commissioner of Immigration for the cancellation of his ACR and issuance of an ICR.

Q. My husband is a foreign national. Can I include him in the petition for dual citizenship?

No. However, he can apply for a non-quota immigrant visa, which will eventually give him permanent residency in the Philippines. If he wishes to acquire Philippine citizenship, he can later apply for naturalization.


Q. Can I include my children in the petition for dual citizenship?

Only unmarried children who are below 18 years of age can be included in the petition for dual citizenship.

Q. What passport will I use when travelling to the Philippines?

Dual citizens are advised to: (a) bring both their Philippine and UK/EU passport when travelling to the Philippines, (b) use their Philippine passport when entering and transacting business in the Philippines, and (c) use their British/EU passport when entering the UK/Europe.

Q. As a dual citizen, do I have to pay income tax in the Philippines?

Not necessarily, unless you earn income in the Philippines.

Q. I am a dual citizen. Can I own properties in the Philippines?

Yes. As a dual citizen, you can enjoy all the rights and privileges accorded to Filipino citizens.

Q. I am a dual citizen. Will I need a visa to the Philippines if I use my foreign
passport when entering the Philippines?

No. Just present proof that you are a dual citizen.

Q. As a dual citizen, how long can I stay in the Philippines?

You can stay in the Philippines for as long as you want provided that you entered the Philippines as a Filipino/dual citizen.

Q. As a dual citizen, am I exempted from Philippine travel tax?

Yes. As a dual citizen, you will also enjoy the travel tax exemption accorded to Filipino citizens permanently residing abroad and to OFWs and their dependents, provided that you permanently reside overseas.

Q. What document can I present in the absence of a naturalization certificate?

In lieu of naturalization certification, you can present a certificate from the authority that issued you your foreign citizenship or any other document that will indicate the date when you acquired your foreign citizenship.

Q. As a dual citizen, do I have to apply for a Philippine passport?

Application for Philippine passport is not compulsory. However, dual citizens are strongly encouraged to have a valid Philippine passport when entering or during their sojourn in the Philippines. Dual citizens can always present their Certificate of Oath of Allegiance as proof of their Philippine citizenship but the said certificate is not valid as a travel document.

http://philembassy-uk.org/dualcitizenshipfaqs.asp

[A_flyer]

Just because you have two passports does not mean that you are automatically a duel citizen.

Yes that's true as it's not a proof of citizenship neither in the philippines, UK or France too. But the fact you can renew it means you have the citizenship and even without the ceremony you can.

If both countries authorize dual citizenship, you do not lose the preceding one unless you voluntarely resign from it at your administration (or the new citizenship countries, like Germany or Austria, request it from your country, or your country remove it from you for a good and strong reason).

Let go back to the text of the Philippines laws, and you will see we are both true... Section 2 shows I'm right and last phrase of section 3 shows you're right.

REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9225
AN ACT MAKING THE CITIZENSHIP OF PHILIPPINE CITIZENS WHO ACQUIRE FOREIGN CITIZENSHIP PERMANENT, AMENDING FOR THE PURPOSE COMMONWEALTH ACT NO. 63, AS AMENDED, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

Section 1. Short Title. — This Act shall be known as the "Citizenship Retention and Re-acquisition Act of 2003."

Sec. 2. Declaration of Policy. — It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.

Sec. 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship. — Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizens of the Philippines who have lost their Philippine citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic:

"I _________________, solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines and obey the laws and legal orders promulgated by the duly constituted authorities of the Philippines, and I hereby declare that I recognize and accept the supreme authority of the Philippines and will maintain true faith and allegiance thereto; and that I impose this obligation upon myself voluntarily without mental reservation or purpose of evasion."

Natural-born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.

Sec. 4. Derivative Citizenship. — The unmarried child, whether legitimate, illegitimate or adopted, below eighteen (18) years of age, of those who re-acquire Philippine citizenship upon effectivity of this Act shall be deemed citizens of the Philippines.

Sec. 5. Civil and Political Rights and Liabilities. — Those who retain or re-acquire Philippine citizenship under this Act shall enjoy full civil and political rights and be subject to all attendant liabilities and responsibilities under existing laws of the Philippines and the following conditions:

(1) Those intending to exercise their right of suffrage must meet the requirements under Sec. 1, Article V of the Constitution, Republic Act No. 9189, otherwise known as "The Overseas Absentee Voting Act of 2003" and other existing laws;

(2) Those seeking elective public office in the Philippines shall meet the qualifications for holding such public office as required by the Constitution and existing laws and, at the time of the filing of the certificate of candidacy, make a personal and sworn renunciation of any and all foreign citizenship before any public officer authorized to administer an oath;

(3) Those appointed to any public office shall subscribe and swear to an oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines and its duly constituted authorities prior to their assumption of office: provided, that they renounce their oath of allegiance to the country where they took that oath;

(4) Those intending to practice their profession in the Philippines shall apply with the proper authority for a license or permit to engage in such practice; and

(5) That right to vote or be elected or appointed to any public office in the Philippines cannot be exercised by, or extended to, those who:

(a) are candidates for or are occupying any public office in the country of which they are naturalized citizens; and/or

(b) are in active service as commissioned or non-commissioned officers in the armed forces of the country which they are naturalized citizens.

Sec. 6. Separability Clause. — If any Sec. or provision of this Act is held unconstitutional or invalid, any other Sec. or provision not affected thereby shall remain valid and effective.

Sec. 7. Repealing Clause. — All laws, decrees, orders, rules and regulations inconsistent with the provisions of this Act are hereby repealed or modified accordingly.

Sec. 8. Effectivity Clause. — This Act shall take effect after fifteen (15) days following its publication in the Official Gazette or two (2) newspapers of general circulation.

Approved: August 29, 2003


Anyway in my opinion, for those acquiring a new citizenship after september 2003, the dual citizenship ceremony is more useful for the Consulate to get a (good) fee rather than for the applicant.

[fred]

Yes that's true as it's not a proof of citizenship neither in the philippines, UK or France too. But the fact you can renew it means you have the citizenship and even without the ceremony you can.

If both countries authorize dual citizenship, you do not lose the preceding one unless you voluntarely resign from it at your administration (or the new citizenship countries, like Germany or Austria, request it from your country, or your country remove it from you for a good and strong reason).

Let go back to the text of the Philippines laws, and you will see we are both true... Section 2 shows I'm right and last phrase of section 3 shows you're right.

REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9225
AN ACT MAKING THE CITIZENSHIP OF PHILIPPINE CITIZENS WHO ACQUIRE FOREIGN CITIZENSHIP PERMANENT, AMENDING FOR THE PURPOSE COMMONWEALTH ACT NO. 63, AS AMENDED, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

Section 1. Short Title. — This Act shall be known as the "Citizenship Retention and Re-acquisition Act of 2003."

Sec. 2. Declaration of Policy. — It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.

Sec. 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship. — Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizens of the Philippines who have lost their Philippine citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic:

"I _________________, solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines and obey the laws and legal orders promulgated by the duly constituted authorities of the Philippines, and I hereby declare that I recognize and accept the supreme authority of the Philippines and will maintain true faith and allegiance thereto; and that I impose this obligation upon myself voluntarily without mental reservation or purpose of evasion."

Natural-born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.

Sec. 4. Derivative Citizenship. — The unmarried child, whether legitimate, illegitimate or adopted, below eighteen (18) years of age, of those who re-acquire Philippine citizenship upon effectivity of this Act shall be deemed citizens of the Philippines.

Sec. 5. Civil and Political Rights and Liabilities. — Those who retain or re-acquire Philippine citizenship under this Act shall enjoy full civil and political rights and be subject to all attendant liabilities and responsibilities under existing laws of the Philippines and the following conditions:

(1) Those intending to exercise their right of suffrage must meet the requirements under Sec. 1, Article V of the Constitution, Republic Act No. 9189, otherwise known as "The Overseas Absentee Voting Act of 2003" and other existing laws;

(2) Those seeking elective public office in the Philippines shall meet the qualifications for holding such public office as required by the Constitution and existing laws and, at the time of the filing of the certificate of candidacy, make a personal and sworn renunciation of any and all foreign citizenship before any public officer authorized to administer an oath;

(3) Those appointed to any public office shall subscribe and swear to an oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines and its duly constituted authorities prior to their assumption of office: provided, that they renounce their oath of allegiance to the country where they took that oath;

(4) Those intending to practice their profession in the Philippines shall apply with the proper authority for a license or permit to engage in such practice; and

(5) That right to vote or be elected or appointed to any public office in the Philippines cannot be exercised by, or extended to, those who:

(a) are candidates for or are occupying any public office in the country of which they are naturalized citizens; and/or

(b) are in active service as commissioned or non-commissioned officers in the armed forces of the country which they are naturalized citizens.

Sec. 6. Separability Clause. — If any Sec. or provision of this Act is held unconstitutional or invalid, any other Sec. or provision not affected thereby shall remain valid and effective.

Sec. 7. Repealing Clause. — All laws, decrees, orders, rules and regulations inconsistent with the provisions of this Act are hereby repealed or modified accordingly.

Sec. 8. Effectivity Clause. — This Act shall take effect after fifteen (15) days following its publication in the Official Gazette or two (2) newspapers of general circulation.

Approved: August 29, 2003


Anyway in my opinion, for those acquiring a new citizenship after september 2003, the dual citizenship ceremony is more useful for the Consulate to get a (good) fee rather than for the applicant.

Section 2 shows I'm right

With respect...It shows nothing of the kind.
Its all very clear..
No smoke or mirrors and no double meaning IMO..
Just good old plain English..

It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.


Section 1. Short Title. — This Act shall be known as the "Citizenship Retention and Re-acquisition Act of 2003."

Sec. 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship. — Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizens of the Philippines who have lost their Philippine citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic:

In a nut shell.