aargh..dont know I missed your reply Stevie ...would have been nice to meet up for a chat and ...its always nice to hear another english voice when over there! Anyhoo...I went with her to Hopkins in Makati and she took both listening and reading tests on the same day...and passed and TB test the day after...that only took 9 hours...haha. So, we are only just now completing the visa applications - the marriage certificate took over 2 months to come back from NSO. Bit confused about her daughter's application though, it's not exactly clear on the UKBA site. Gawd knows how non-english applicants understand what they need to do!