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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    No doubt we'll see a few 'sheep' in the vicinity of Thatchers funeral too.
    Let's just this event passes peaceably ... WITHOUT incident!


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    i too hope everyone shows a little respect on the route, if there is an incident it should be stopped straight away and not even filmed or any pictures taken of the sheep


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    What the have sheep ever done wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    i too hope everyone shows a little respect on the route, if there is a incident it should be stopped straight away and not even filmed or any pictures taken of the sheep
    If you see an old Goat there....that will be me.


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    Any one remember spitting image
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    some real gems


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    "Let me give you my vision: A man's right to work as he will, to spend what he earns, to own property, to have the state as servant and not as master - these are the British inheritance. They are the essence of a free economy... and on that freedom all our other freedoms depend."

    Margaret Thatcher , 10/10/1975


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    No doubt we'll see a few 'sheep' in the vicinity of Thatchers funeral too.
    yes I wonder if Geoffrey Howe will be there
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    yes I wonder if Geoffrey Howe will be there
    ... Howe the would I know?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    "Let me give you my vision: A man's right to work as he will, to spend what he earns, to own property, to have the state as servant and not as master - these are the British inheritance. They are the essence of a free economy... and on that freedom all our other freedoms depend."

    Margaret Thatcher , 10/10/1975
    as for British, didn't she sell off everything that was British to buy votes , did we have British Airways, British Steel, British Gas, British Telecom etc. oh wait the taxpayer and the country owned them, now foreigners do

    if she thought everyone should own a property why didnt she build a new one for every 1m council houses she sold off cheap

    coming from someone who snatched milk from kids
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    I agree that foreigners shouldn't have been allowed to buy or have controlling shares in many of our previously nationalised industries...in particular, utilities.

    As for council/social housing, then yes, many more should have been built, but only let out to those who could meet strict (local) residency conditions. Certainly not to asylum seekers, junkies, alcoholics, irresponsible unmarried teens etc.

    Basic hostel accommodation would be quite sufficient for them (and a deterrent ).


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Basic hostel accommodation would be quite sufficient for them (and a deterrent ).
    Way too good Graham - I'd favour tents ringed by razor wire in a remote area


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Way too good Graham - I'd favour tents ringed by razor wire in a remote area
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    Yep...bloody holiday camp waaaay too good.

    There was me trying to be moderate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    i think closing down the mines was like cutting off your nose to spite your face, the reason she shut the mines was to kill off the stronghold of the unions, which weakened and eventualy destroyed the unions, the unions brought their destruction on themselves through striking for winnie ninni things,

    but to destroy the mines was a wicked thing to do to our country, those mines had many years left in them and at the time was well worth modernisation
    Coal had been a decaying industry for years, history was re-written by Labour and they keep repeating it until they believe it is true :-

    Declining number of pits under Wilson & Callaghan

    1964 .. 545
    1965 .. 504
    1966 .. 442
    1967 .. 406
    1968 .. 330
    1969 .. 304

    1974 .. 250
    1975 .. 241
    1976 .. 239
    1977 .. 231
    1978 .. 223
    1979 .. 219

    Declining Number of pits under Mrs Thatcher

    1979 .. 219
    1980 .. 213
    1981 .. 200
    1982 .. 191
    1983 .. 170
    1984 .. 169
    1985 .. 133
    1986 .. 110
    1987 .. 94
    1988 .. 86
    1989 .. 73
    1990 .. 65


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post

    Declining number of pits under Wilson & Callaghan

    1964 .. 545
    1965 .. 504
    1966 .. 442
    1967 .. 406
    1968 .. 330
    1969 .. 304

    1974 .. 250
    1975 .. 241
    1976 .. 239
    1977 .. 231
    1978 .. 223
    1979 .. 219

    Declining Number of pits under Mrs Thatcher

    1979 .. 219
    1980 .. 213
    1981 .. 200
    1982 .. 191
    1983 .. 170
    1984 .. 169
    1985 .. 133
    1986 .. 110
    1987 .. 94
    1988 .. 86
    1989 .. 73
    1990 .. 65
    ... that's "the pits"!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    as for British, didn't she sell off everything that was British to buy votes , did we have British Airways, British Steel, British Gas, British Telecom etc. oh wait the taxpayer and the country owned them, now foreigners do

    if she thought everyone should own a property why didnt she build a new one for every 1m council houses she sold off cheap

    coming from someone who snatched milk from kids
    They did not need the milk by then, I remember it well a third of a pint of warm sour milk - lovely!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Coal had been a decaying industry for years, history was re-written by Labour and they keep repeating it until they believe it is true :-

    Declining number of pits under Wilson & Callaghan

    1964 .. 545
    1965 .. 504
    1966 .. 442
    1967 .. 406
    1968 .. 330
    1969 .. 304

    1974 .. 250
    1975 .. 241
    1976 .. 239
    1977 .. 231
    1978 .. 223
    1979 .. 219

    Declining Number of pits under Mrs Thatcher

    1979 .. 219
    1980 .. 213
    1981 .. 200
    1982 .. 191
    1983 .. 170
    1984 .. 169
    1985 .. 133
    1986 .. 110
    1987 .. 94
    1988 .. 86
    1989 .. 73
    1990 .. 65
    Declining Number of pits under Mrs Thatcher would be smaller figures because obviously there was less to close down,

    but i would have liked to see the reasons for closed pits under labour , and the reason for closing pits under maggie, im darn sure the reasons are very different, im sure maggies reasons was to get to breaking the unions nothing more


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    "The legacy of what the Conservative government did to British industry under Thatcher is not one to be proud of if you really did want the best for the people," the NUM said in a statement.


    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/...dance-thatcher


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post

    a third of a pint of warm sour milk
    ....................... ... but, when Thatcher came along, it was pasteurised ... "past your eyes" before you'd even noticed!


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    If it hadn't been for the private free enterprise of the original mine owners, there would have been no mining industry employing the thousands that it ultimately did.

    Workers' unions are a very good idea, and I used to be a union area rep' myself, but the union leaders just became too big for their boots, as in so many British industries at that time....then finally they killed the goose that laid the golden eggs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Let's just this event passes peaceably ... WITHOUT incident!
    I was talking about the Tory 'sheep' Arth!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    I was talking about the Tory 'sheep' Arth!
    Ah ... you mean Edward Heath ... the man my dad used to say sounded like a bleating whenever he appeared on TV.

    Latterly, there was no love lost between Heath and the woman who succeeded him as Leader of the Conservatives. And also, of course, Heath predeceased Thatcher in 2005. But, that said, I wouldn't put it past old Ted to to turn up in spirit at his sparring partner's "send off" next week. If only for the sake of laying a on her mortal remains before they're disposed of at Mortlake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    I was talking about the Tory 'sheep' Arth!
    Labour Chancellor Denis Healey in 1978 claimed an attack from Howe was "like being savaged by a dead sheep"
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Thanks for reminding me to clip my eyebrows.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post

    her mortal remains
    Speaking of which ... the final disposal (following the service at St Paul's) is to be a Private affair. However, I believe Boris Johnson's expected to be in attendance ... to mop up what's left of Maggie afterwards.


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    Forgot to mention that my brother (then in Senegal) was the British diplomat co-ordinating the 'rescue' of Maggie's idiot son Mark when he lost himself in the Sahara that time, while competing in the Paris-Dakar rally. Bro' was also our official press relations officer, so we saw him on telly and being quoted in the newspapers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    "The legacy of what the Conservative government did to British industry under Thatcher is not one to be proud of if you really did want the best for the people," the NUM said in a statement.

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/...dance-thatcher
    That's the sort of tripe you'd expect the NUM to come out with.The only thing newsworthy that's come out about them in recent years is their legal wranglings to get Scargill out of their luxury London flat

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20303797

    Former miners' leader Arthur Scargill has lost his High Court fight to have the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) continue to pay for his London flat.

    Mr Scargill was president of the NUM until July 2002 and led it during the miners' strike from 1984 to 1985.

    He stepped down as president of the union but claimed his contract entitled him to a London home for life, or the life of his widow.

    Chris Kitchen, NUM general secretary, said Mr Scargill had been "found out".

    Mr Scargill said that the judgment was "perverse".


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    The problem for most of the miners was that THEY were too busy working their arses off to to have time to realise what a megalomaniac that Scargill was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    The problem for most of the miners was that THEY were too busy working their arses off to to have time to realise what a megalomaniac that Scargill was.
    He never balloted them for strike action


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