citizenship soon for me and my daughter

[Moy]

what about it?...am not informed yet

neither me i was just browsing and found it lols
read the thread

[malditako]

found it lol...am thinking to apply for naturalization late this year but then this new rules came up...dear me! Anyway it would be my 3 years here next month so got to apply before then...i noticed i always at the edge of the new rules needs to be implemented.feel lucky though as i can avoid it...just money though. hmmmm. we just had a big expense last month and then this.

[joebloggs]

Hi Moy,
My wife and step-daughter are in the same position as you. In June this year, having already obtained ILR, they will have been here 3 years. We will be applying for British Citizenship for both of them, my wife through naturalisation andmy step-daughter through registration. at the same time. The outcome is the same but the forms different, as i understand it. We will then apply for British passports for both of them.

One we have done that we will be appying for dual citizenship to the Philippines Embassy, so they "retain" their philippine citizenship.

A further complication for me is that my Step-daughter wants now to have the same surname as my wife and i and we are wondering when is the best time to change that.

probably b4 you register her.

[Terpe]

probably b4 you register her.

I'm just thinking out loud here.
I wonder if there's any advantage in waiting until she is a British Citizen? Then she'd be eligible to change her name by UK Deed Poll. These papers are recognised by all UK government departments, and organisations, as well as by all British Embassies and High Commissions anywhere in the world.
Also by the Passport Service, DVLA, Local Councils, Electoral Roll, Banks, Credit Cards etc.

Of course Birth Certificates cannot be changed.

I'm not sure if there are any age restrictions.

Food for thought anyway.

[grahamw48]

Age restrictions...changing names:

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-age-restrictions/

[Terpe]

Age restrictions...changing names:

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-age-restrictions/

Nice link
Very interesting

[grahamw48]

I was interested in the thread because both of my stepchildren have British Citizenship and passports now, but this happened after the ex and I separated, so I couldn't really contribute anything useful here.

[lordna]

I'm just thinking out loud here.
I wonder if there's any advantage in waiting until she is a British Citizen? Then she'd be eligible to change her name by UK Deed Poll. These papers are recognised by all UK government departments, and organisations, as well as by all British Embassies and High Commissions anywhere in the world.
Also by the Passport Service, DVLA, Local Councils, Electoral Roll, Banks, Credit Cards etc.

Of course Birth Certificates cannot be changed.

I'm not sure if there are any age restrictions.

Food for thought anyway.

Why wait until AFTER she is a British Citizen?

Foreign nationals living in the United Kingdom can change their name by Deed Poll. This will be accepted as evidence of your name change and you will be able to have records changed into your new name.
Before applying for a Deed Poll you should check with your country's high commission or embassy in London to see if a change of name by Deed Poll will be accepted to get your passport changed. Some foreign embassies require their nationals to have a solicitor witness the signing of their Deed Poll in order for it to be accepted. If you are unable to get your passport changed it is inadvisable to proceed with a change of name by Deed Poll as the change of name must apply to ‘all purposes'. Continuing to get records changed into your new name with other organisations could lead to problems on these grounds.


Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-fo...#ixzz2QMsqA6dD

I was going to apply for Deed Poll BEFORE the citizennship application. Then when dual citizenship application is made to the Philippine embassy the name is already changed and the new philippine passport will also be in the new name?

[malditako]

can u apply for british citizenship even your passport already expired or u need to renew it first.

[Moy]

can u apply for british citizenship even your passport already expired or u need to renew it first.

good question lordna..im thinking about that too lols

[sheriel]

Does all the pretty Filipinas come from Leyte,i now many here in UK,maybe its the water from the Mountains

[malditako]

good question lordna..im thinking about that too lols

i am grace moy lol

[Moy]

i am grace moy lol

aws sorry i was drunk haha

[joebloggs]

I'm just thinking out loud here.
I wonder if there's any advantage in waiting until she is a British Citizen? Then she'd be eligible to change her name by UK Deed Poll. These papers are recognised by all UK government departments, and organisations, as well as by all British Embassies and High Commissions anywhere in the world.
Also by the Passport Service, DVLA, Local Councils, Electoral Roll, Banks, Credit Cards etc.

Of course Birth Certificates cannot be changed.

I'm not sure if there are any age restrictions.

Food for thought anyway.

not sure if it really matters when you can her name, but for me getting her name changed by deed poll and then registering her as british would mean her registration certificate would be in her new surname and not her old one.

[Terpe]

not sure if it really matters when you can her name, but for me getting her name changed by deed poll and then registering her as british would mean her registration certificate would be in her new surname and not her old one.

Yes, I know what you mean, but I thought you had to be British Citizen to do that Deed Poll.

Maybe not I didn't check

[Moy]

found it lol...am thinking to apply for naturalization late this year but then this new rules came up...dear me! Anyway it would be my 3 years here next month so got to apply before then...i noticed i always at the edge of the new rules needs to be implemented.feel lucky though as i can avoid it...just money though. hmmmm. we just had a big expense last month and then this.

i know lucky you if you aint got no dependent less money as me i got one so a thousand pound or more that i need this month

[Terpe]

Moy, If you and your daughter apply together you should get the approval letters together.
UKBA usually make arrangements to have the Registration Certificate for your daughter available for presentation at the ceremony.
If this is the case they will inform you and also give you the possibility to have it posted to you if you prefer.

Might be a nice experience to have her be presented at the ceremony I think.

[Moy]

Moy, If you and your daughter apply together you should get the approval letters together.
UKBA usually make arrangements to have the Registration Certificate for your daughter available for presentation at the ceremony.
If this is the case they will inform you and also give you the possibility to have it posted to you if you prefer.

Might be a nice experience to have her be presented at the ceremony I think.

Thank you for a brief explanation Terpe.. its just the paperwork and cash is my aim.. a quick question again ..but correct me if im wrong on ILR you applied 28 days before of the date you are qualified , so this naturalization how would we know we are qualified of the grounds that exactly 3 years you are here in the UK?? for ex..i arrive the 20 of May 2010 so this year of the same date ill be 3 years here.. as much is not easy at the moment as we just had my ILR..well last year and now this new rule arrive the ealier before oct we can sort it out..
what do you think i can apply any month after May? is there any rule in QUALIFYING period to be here in the UK...

[Terpe]

Thank you for a brief explanation Terpe.. its just the paperwork and cash is my aim.. a quick question again ..but correct me if im wrong on ILR you applied 28 days before of the date you are qualified , so this naturalization how would we know we are qualified of the grounds that exactly 3 years you are here in the UK?? for ex..i arrive the 20 of May 2010 so this year of the same date ill be 3 years here.. as much is not easy at the moment as we just had my ILR..well last year and now this new rule arrive the ealier before oct we can sort it out..
what do you think i can apply any month after May? is there any rule in QUALIFYING period to be here in the UK...

Moy, you can apply at anytime you want AFTER the qualifying 3 years. There's no need to be in a big hurry. Same with us all Moy, it comes down to finances. Don't put yourself under too much time pressure by working working working.
Enjoy life, be happy and apply when you can. It's always waiting for you. You have ILR, that's indefinite. Can't take that away from you.

[Moy]

Moy, you can apply at anytime you want AFTER the qualifying 3 years. There's no need to be in a big hurry. Same with us all Moy, it comes down to finances. Don't put yourself under too much time pressure by working working working.
Enjoy life, be happy and apply when you can. It's always waiting for you. You have ILR, that's indefinite. Can't take that away from you.

well i know what you saying..and thanks for reminding me my friend lols..i forgot that we need to relax at times wasnt the same when in Davao i was so stress free seems life here is so in demands all the time haha.
i dont want to be in new rule Terpe...hard enough to had that UK life test lols cant be ask for more test and to think its not free if you take that new set of test again..

[lordna]

Hi Moy,
My wife and step-daughter are in the same position as you. In June this year, having already obtained ILR, they will have been here 3 years. We will be applying for British Citizenship for both of them, my wife through naturalisation andmy step-daughter through registration. at the same time. The outcome is the same but the forms different, as i understand it. We will then apply for British passports for both of them.

One we have done that we will be appying for dual citizenship to the Philippines Embassy, so they "retain" their philippine citizenship.

A further complication for me is that my Step-daughter wants now to have the same surname as my wife and i and we are wondering when is the best time to change that.

I sent an mail via the Philippines embassy London website but never got a reply , so today rang them to find out if it was acceptable to Philippines authorities to change a name by Deed Poll. Apparently the Deed Poll is NOT recognised by the Philippines so if my step daughter wants my surname Officially then I would have to adopt her. Consequently we will do this some other time after obtaining citizenship.

[Terpe]

I sent an mail via the Philippines embassy London website but never got a reply , so today rang them to find out if it was acceptable to Philippines authorities to change a name by Deed Poll. Apparently the Deed Poll is NOT recognised by the Philippines so if my step daughter wants my surname Officially then I would have to adopt her. Consequently we will do this some other time after obtaining citizenship.

I know what you mean lordna, but just allow me some brainstorming and see what you think.

You are all living here in UK.
As a British Citizen, Deed poll is allowed and recognised (even by the passport office too).
As a registered British Citizen your step daughter would have sufficient documentation to be known by whatever name she (you) chooses.

There would be no real need for her to have a Philippine Passport at all at this time.
(My wife still did not yet renew her Philippine passport.)

So, I'm just wondering what it is that the Philippines/Philippines Embassy will not recognise?
Her British Passport? Her Naturalisation Certificate?
They don't do that anyway unless a new Oath Taking has taken place at the Embassy.
At some time she may well wish to make an oath taking to re-acquire Philippine Citizenship.
But that all in the future, and besides her Philippine Naturalisation Certificate will be sufficient for her to enter Philippines as a Philippine citizen even with a British Passport.

Sorry just thinking out loud.
I don't know how many twists and turns are involved with adoption, but it sounds like it might be a very challenging process.

Just trying help.