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    Residency 13A Proof of financial Capacity

    I'm currently in the Philippines and going to apply for residency.One of the requirements states Proof Of financial capacity of applicant during their permanent residence in the Philippines.

    Does anybody know what sort of money i need in a Philippines bank account to pass this requirement.


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    i would be interested to find this out too, as hopefully it wont be long before i follow in your footsteps,

    paul , can i ask you, on your earlier thread you said after getting basic disclosure it would give you 6 months to decide, can i take it that it has 6 months expiry time,?if getting 13a unlike cni which is only 3 months validity,

    also i got a bit confused for getting the disclosure leagalised, everything on internet seems to say the nearest phil embassy in uk , you said that yours was returned, ?
    and i read it that it had to be sent to
    Legalisation Office
    Foreign & Commonwealth Office
    PO Box 6255
    Milton Keynes
    MK10 1XX
    to be leagalised,?
    could you please confirm for me this is correct,

    sorry i cant help you with your question of capacity


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    im just doing some searches now about finance needed,

    so far i got this below link, seems to suggest 60,000p
    http://www.livingincebuforums.com/ip...cally-applied/
    #4 dennis1105


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    Hi Imagine,the police disclosure,you need to get it notary public stamped then sent to fco so they confirm the notary(legalized) then you need to send it to Philippines embassy London,i think alot of the info was in that other thread before,very expensive really but has to be done.
    Notary public in UK they can charge things like 65 pounds or 95 pounds etc as done mostly by soliciters i think but out here in Phils anything to do with immigration you can get notary free at immigration bureau or something not to do with immigration for just a pound or two at the side of immigration building.
    What i will say is any UK document you use must have been notarized and approved in uk,i was trying to use an English bank statement but they wouldn't let me without it being confirmed legit in the UK but they said wifes bank account or joint bank account statements would be fine.

    I think i read the basic disclosure must be used within a certain period,i'd need to try and check,could be 3 months but can't remember off top of my head.
    That looks correct address for legalisation you can pay fees through the website and it gives details on what to do but first thing is notary public stamp and remember return post fees for legisation office and also remember return post fees for Philippines embassey London.


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    1/ obtain police disclosure,
    2/ notary public stamped, by a solicitor ? or a Notary specialist in uk?
    3/send to fso
    4/send to phil embassy london


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    but first thing is notary public stamp and remember return post fees for legisation office and also remember return post fees for Philippines embassey London.
    Must all be relatively new rules as I certainly did not do anything with my uk police clearance accept hand it in with my application..(6 years ago)
    We had just sold our house so no problem showing income..
    The RP Consul did tell me that he had never heard once of a refusal from the UK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul77 View Post
    I'm currently in the Philippines and going to apply for residency.One of the requirements states Proof Of financial capacity of applicant during their permanent residence in the Philippines.

    Does anybody know what sort of money i need in a Philippines bank account to pass this requirement.
    Paul, it's a little bit like the 'old' UK settlement visa used to be. There's not any specific amount.
    There's plenty of folk going to tell you all sorts of stuff, but I can assure you there's nothing YET written down. Period.

    For what it's worth, I can tell you that the the SRRV visa ([B]S[/Bpecial Resident Retirees Visa) demands a pension income of US$800.00 for single applicant and US$1,000.00 for a married couples. Logically then this could be claimed to be adequate. But again I say nothing is written down.

    As you know Paul things in the Philippines can get decided on things other than rules and regulations. They can be decided just as much on situation and personality.

    The key is to show you will not become a burden on the state.
    If you aren't able to show a regular income stream in line with the SRRV, then you'll need to show some extra amount of cash savings at the bank. Again everyone's going to have a different interpretation on how much would be adequate. But again if you look at the SRRV rrequirement your looking at US$10,000.

    Paul I'm not suggesting the figures I mention are definitive. I'm just say there's nothing specified but the SRRV COULD be used as a logical and fully documented and accepted guide within Philippine BI.


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    is the validity period for police clearence untill it is used in phil for 13a, or untill sent to phil embassy london, because with all this posting backwards and forwards isnt going to leave much time to get to philippines, in my case once back in phil 1st part of my time will be to marry 1st before i can apply for the 13a, which is why im hoping the validity is longer than 3 months, a good month im guessing will be used up in uk before going


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Must all be relatively new rules as I certainly did not do anything with my uk police clearance accept hand it in with my application..(6 years ago)
    We had just sold our house so no problem showing income..
    The RP Consul did tell me that he had never heard once of a refusal from the UK.
    wish 6 yrs ago was now fred


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    Here's what BI state about Police Clearance :-

    1.If the applicant has been in the Philippines for less than six (6) months, he shall attach to his application a Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence duly authenticated by the Philippine Embassy / Consulate at the place of issuance or nearest to it, with English translation, if written in another foreign language.
    2.If the applicant has been in the Philippines for six (6) months or more, he shall, in addition to the Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence prior to his arrival in the Philippines, attach to his application a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) clearance.
    In both instances, the BI will not accept Police Clearance Certificates that are more than six months' old.
    Ideally they prefer less than 3 months' old.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Here's what BI state about Police Clearance :-



    In both instances, the BI will not accept Police Clearance Certificates that are more than six months' old.
    Ideally they prefer less than 3 months' old.
    thanks peter
    if this is so over 3 months after issue is ok as long as not over 6 months which would give enough time
    i thought the six months just meant how long been in phil but not refering to validity time of police clearance cert


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    Stewart, you can organise to apply for and have delivered to you at an international delivery address.

    Can you courier my Police Certificate to me at an international delivery address?

    If the delivery address is outside the United Kingdom the fee is £65.00 sterling (per delivery address). Please complete the relevant section of the application form and enclose the additional payment with your application. The delivery times will depend on the flight availability in the country where your documents are to be sent.
    Could be useful


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Stewart, you can organise to apply for and have delivered to you at an international delivery address.



    Could be useful
    this is the police clearence yes? but if delivered to philippines , then do i not have to re post it to

    2/ notary public stamped, by a solicitor ? or a Notary specialist in uk?
    3/send to fso
    4/send to phil embassy london,

    and then reposted back to phil,

    yes im confused lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    this is the police clearence yes? but if delivered to philippines , then do i not have to re post it to

    2/ notary public stamped, by a solicitor ? or a Notary specialist in uk?
    3/send to fso
    4/send to phil embassy london,

    and then reposted back to phil,

    yes im confused lol
    You've got me confused now Stewart.

    If you've been in the Philippines for 6 months or more :-
    2.If the applicant has been in the Philippines for six (6) months or more, he shall, in addition to the Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence prior to his arrival in the Philippines, attach to his application a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) clearance.
    What I'm suggesting is this, IF at some time during the 13a process you needed to secure a new PCC then you can do so without actually being in UK
    Since there is no formal BI requirement there could be no requirement to have it notarised at the Phils Embassy UK

    Just trying to help cover all the angles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    You've got me confused now Stewart.

    If you've been in the Philippines for 6 months or more :-


    What I'm suggesting is this, IF at some time during the 13a process you needed to secure a new PCC then you can do so without actually being in UK
    Since there is no formal BI requirement there could be no requirement to have it notarised at the Phils Embassy UK

    Just trying to help cover all the angles.
    thanks peter ,
    this your saying if after applying here in uk, then find my police clearance becomes out of date while in process to apply for 13a , then i can re apply from phil for a second police clearance without having to go through notorising ect again in uk?

    if that is the case and i just apply the 1st time before i leave uk have it delivered to phil, then i wont need any uk notarising at all?
    im a pain i know, but i am confused because what paul #4 is saying about notarised and legalised ect


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    .. im a pain i know, but i am confused because what paul #4 is saying about notarised and legalised ect
    Yes, the procedure outlined in #4 is certainly required by the Phils Embassy for any documents sent by post.

    I can't answer your question as I've never done anything like that by post, I've always contacted the Embassy by telephone and discussed how to achieve what I've wanted by personal appoinment.
    I don't know of anyone who has done that for the PCC as it's a new requirement.

    I do know that PRA do not need that procedure for the PCC if you are already in the Philippines.
    Maybe worth a bit of research.
    Probably the only reliable procedure for the case you mention is to discuss with the Phils Embassy, especially as this is such a new requirement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Yes, the procedure outlined in #4 is certainly required by the Phils Embassy for any documents sent by post.

    I can't answer your question as I've never done anything like that by post, I've always contacted the Embassy by telephone and discussed how to achieve what I've wanted by personal appoinment.
    I don't know of anyone who has done that for the PCC as it's a new requirement.

    I do know that PRA do not need that procedure for the PCC if you are already in the Philippines.
    Maybe worth a bit of research.
    Probably the only reliable procedure for the case you mention is to discuss with the Phils Embassy, especially as this is such a new requirement.
    thank you peter


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    I applied for a 13a visa last November and I was'nt asked for a police record report and was granted a 12month probationary residents visa. I did however have a police report that I got from the uk before O came here, Just walk into any police station and ask for one, the cost is 10 quid. As for proof of financial status I just gave them 3 months bank statements from my uk bank.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keith britten View Post
    I applied for a 13a visa last November and I was'nt asked for a police record report and was granted a 12month probationary residents visa. I did however have a police report that I got from the uk before O came here, Just walk into any police station and ask for one, the cost is 10 quid. As for proof of financial status I just gave them 3 months bank statements from my uk bank.
    Looks like you had good timing Keith

    The new requirements came in sometime during January 2013
    Everyone still climbing that learning curve to understand how the BI will apply them ( or not )


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    I got my probationary 13a about the same time. No police check asked for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnijon View Post
    I got my probationary 13a about the same time. No police check asked for.
    So are you saying that a Police clearance is actually not required ?

    1.If the applicant has been in the Philippines for less than six (6) months, he shall attach to his application a Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence duly authenticated by the Philippine Embassy / Consulate at the place of issuance or nearest to it, with English translation, if written in another foreign language.
    2.If the applicant has been in the Philippines for six (6) months or more, he shall, in addition to the Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence prior to his arrival in the Philippines, attach to his application a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) clearance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnijon View Post
    I got my probationary 13a about the same time. No police check asked for.
    around the same time as Keith?


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    i have just found update info on new 13a requirments as of jan 2013,
    it still states that uk police clearence Documents executed outside the Philippines must be authenticated by the Philippine
    Embassy/Consular Officials of the Philippine foreign service at the place of issuance or nearest to it,

    and nothing about being notary public stamped, or
    being leagalised by fso

    http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?...&limitstart=30


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    Imagine, do you mean they have to be authenticated if you are applying abroad or in the Philippines?

    I know somebody who applied last month here in the Philippines and under the new rules they did need police clearance from the UK. The document wasnt authenticated by the embassy in the UK.

    Sometimes things can be a tad confusing in the Philippines but on the bright side i have never heard of anybody being refused the 13a visa.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    Imagine, do you mean they have to be authenticated if you are applying abroad or in the Philippines?

    I know somebody who applied last month here in the Philippines and under the new rules they did need police clearance from the UK. The document wasnt authenticated by the embassy in the UK.

    Sometimes things can be a tad confusing in the Philippines but on the bright side i have never heard of anybody being refused the 13a visa.
    well thats what it says in Revised Checklist of Documentary Requirements


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    well thats what it says in Revised Checklist of Documentary Requirements
    Sorry you are correct as i just called him and asked.

    http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?...978&Itemid=103


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    Sorry you are correct as i just called him and asked.

    http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?...978&Itemid=103
    ok good, so he only had to get it authenticated by phil embassy uk, nothing else?

    this is what im not clear about, it seems to have been said , or the way i interpreted it that 1st the police check had to be authenticated, then sent to fso for legalisation before it can be sent to phil embassy uk


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    ok good, so he only had to get it authenticated by phil embassy uk, nothing else?

    this is what im not clear about, it seems to have been said , or the way i interpreted it that 1st the police check had to be authenticated, then sent to fso for legalisation before it can be sent to phil embassy uk
    Tried calling him again but no answer. We have live football here in the Philippines tonight Reading v OPR so i am guessing he is watching that. Better than nothing!

    Will let you know once i have spoken to him again.


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    thanks jake


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    As I understand it, if you were issued a probationary 13a last year you do not need police clearance to obtain a permanent 13a. Because you have already been granted 13a. This is my understanding.


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