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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnijon View Post
    As I understand it, if you were issued a probationary 13a last year you do not need police clearance to obtain a permanent 13a. Because you have already been granted 13a. This is my understanding.
    yes i found thats the case,

    for me it will be my first probationary 13a


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    Stewart, i spoke to my friend again this morning and i can understand why everybody is confused.

    Hopefully the OP poster will post his journey when it is complete as the rules seem to change for each person. You get used to things like that once you have lived here for awhile!

    First of all he said the BI website is not up to date and the only way to get precise information from them is to actually go there in person. The documents my friend used was police clearance, notarized from the Philippine embassy in the UK. I asked about it being stamped by a notary public in the UK and he said it was not.

    When dealing with government official in the Philippines remember to always be polite as they actually have a law that says the big boss can change instructions, not consistent with the laws!!

    Sorry i cant help you anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    Stewart, i spoke to my friend again this morning and i can understand why everybody is confused.

    Hopefully the OP poster will post his journey when it is complete as the rules seem to change for each person. You get used to things like that once you have lived here for awhile!

    First of all he said the BI website is not up to date and the only way to get precise information from them is to actually go there in person. The documents my friend used was police clearance, notarized from the Philippine embassy in the UK. I asked about it being stamped by a notary public in the UK and he said it was not.

    When dealing with government official in the Philippines remember to always be polite as they actually have a law that says the big boss can change instructions, not consistent with the laws!!

    Sorry i cant help you anymore.
    thanks jake, thats exactly the bit that confused me, now i know police clearance only needs notarised by phil embassy london


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    Handed in my 13a application for residency at Bureau Of Immigration Manila yesterday,will be back there later in the week for a hearing.

    The Police check was required as part of the application.
    As stated below was attached to the application

    1.If the applicant has been in the Philippines for less than six (6) months, he shall attach to his application a Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence duly authenticated by the Philippine Embassy / Consulate at the place of issuance or nearest to it, with English translation, if written in another foreign language.
    2.If the applicant has been in the Philippines for six (6) months or more, he shall, in addition to the Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence prior to his arrival in the Philippines, attach to his application a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) clearance.




    I just followed the advice on
    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....l=1#post420571 and the rest of that thread that helped me do it that way.


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    Cheers for the update and keep us posted.
    The hearing will only last a few minutes and then it will be approved. Never heard of anybody ever being refused.


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    The hearing lasted about 10-15 minutes,just general questions.Then i went and had photo and finger prints taken.Now i just have to wait,maybe a month.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul77 View Post
    The hearing lasted about 10-15 minutes,just general questions.Then i went and had photo and finger prints taken.Now i just have to wait,maybe a month.
    Congratulations. Have you managed to remove the ink from your fingers?!

    When you go from probationary to permanent make sure you do it early rather than leaving it until the last minute.


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    Good thread this.
    Thanks to all contributors especially Paul and Jake


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    well done paul, and thanks for all the info paul and jake,

    i have a small quiry i feel unsure about ,

    the notary public stamp, necasery or not? and is there a difference between a notary public and a solicitor notary,?
    as i noticed in town yesterday the sign above a solicitor was solicitors & notaries


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    Hi Imagine,in the uk it seems solicitors often act as notary publics as it's abit of easy money for them and probably why they can cost so much in the UK.
    I did notary public to be on the safe side but costly.

    Maybe read this
    https://www.gov.uk/legalisation-docu...ureau-document


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul77 View Post
    Hi Imagine,in the uk it seems solicitors often act as notary publics as it's abit of easy money for them and probably why they can cost so much in the UK.
    I did notary public to be on the safe side but costly.

    Maybe read this
    https://www.gov.uk/legalisation-docu...ureau-document
    thanks paul, looking at that link , says signed by an official from the issuing authority,im assuming this means those who issued the basic disclosure,
    so im thinking it wont be necasary to get it notarised,
    did yours come back signed?
    but then as you say being on the safe side


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    thanks paul, looking at that link , says signed by an official from the issuing authority,im assuming this means those who issued the basic disclosure,
    so im thinking it wont be necasary to get it notarised,
    did yours come back signed?
    but then as you say being on the safe side
    Anybody know what is really meant by the term 'notarised' when used in Philippines??

    As opposed to certified.

    Here in UK a Notary will validate a signature.
    Having a document certified means having an 'appropriate person' confirm that a copy is a true and exact copy of a specified original (or other copy)

    A Notary is darn expensive in UK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Anybody know what is really meant by the term 'notarised' when used in Philippines??

    As opposed to certified.

    Here in UK a Notary will validate a signature.
    Having a document certified means having an 'appropriate person' confirm that a copy is a true and exact copy of a specified original (or other copy)

    A Notary is darn expensive in UK.
    im just thinking that as long as the basic disclosure has been signed when issued that when its sent for leagalisation at gov uk, it doesnt need to be notarised, it seems to read that it has to be issuer signed,if not then it must be notoriesd, before uk gov will legalise it,
    i just want that when i apply i get it right


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    Imagine i got my Police check by going through a website.
    Looking at the photo copy of the basic disclosure i see no signature there.When i got the notary he was standing next to me as we called Disclosure Scotland to confirm the certifictate real,then he did all his stamps and things to confirm things.
    Then i sent to FCO and looking at the photocopy,the FCO confirmed the notary was who he said he was.
    Then sent to Philippines Embassy london who confirmed the FCO official was who he said he was.

    I was so rushed at the time as it was close to my flight date.Maybe you could give the fco a call and ask them about it if you are still not sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul77 View Post
    Imagine i got my Police check by going through a website.
    Looking at the photo copy of the basic disclosure i see no signature there.When i got the notary he was standing next to me as we called Disclosure Scotland to confirm the certifictate real,then he did all his stamps and things to confirm things.
    Then i sent to FCO and looking at the photocopy,the FCO confirmed the notary was who he said he was.
    Then sent to Philippines Embassy london who confirmed the FCO official was who he said he was.

    I was so rushed at the time as it was close to my flight date.Maybe you could give the fco a call and ask them about it if you are still not sure.
    What a palava eh


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    thanks paul, your information will be valuable to me, and much appreciated


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul77 View Post
    Imagine i got my Police check by going through a website.
    Looking at the photo copy of the basic disclosure i see no signature there.When i got the notary he was standing next to me as we called Disclosure Scotland to confirm the certifictate real,then he did all his stamps and things to confirm things.
    Then i sent to FCO and looking at the photocopy,the FCO confirmed the notary was who he said he was.
    Then sent to Philippines Embassy london who confirmed the FCO official was who he said he was.

    I was so rushed at the time as it was close to my flight date.Maybe you could give the fco a call and ask them about it if you are still not sure.
    Paul, how long did it take to get the baisc disclosure back from the philippine embassy london ?


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    http://www.pra.gov.ph/

    Paul, this link might be useful.


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