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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    I wanted to reply to this earlier.
    It's a subject very close to my heart

    I'm most definitely not any kind of beer brewing expert, but I do enjoy different beers. The cheaper and healthier the better

    Fred, you don't need to get into the complications of malted and roasted barley. (well unless you want to)
    You can use barley and then introduce natural enzymes to do all that boring work for you.
    Research.
    Think about using Calamansi and Milfoil (Achillea millefolium) as a hops substitute.
    Chemically it introduces a more Red Bull effect than the 'sleepy' effect of hops.

    From what I think I know about you fred, you'd enjoy working on a project to develop a maltless and hop-less beer using only ingredients indigenous to the Philippines (and cheap too).

    I know I'd enjoy drinking it

    OK..
    Not sure what Achillea millefolium is.. Ive looked at Google images and cannot recognise it??
    Fred, you don't need to get into the complications of malted and roasted barley. (well unless you want to)
    You can use barley and then introduce natural enzymes to do all that boring work for you.


    What is the brewing process and what do I add to produce natural enzymes??
    I think I need a recipe...And a process!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    OK..
    Not sure what Achillea millefolium is.. Ive looked at Google images and cannot recognise it??
    British = Yarrow
    Chinese = Shi Cao
    Filipino = Milfoil

    Like I said I'm not a beer-brewer and I've never actually used Yarrow instead of Hops.
    I would say that Hops has got to be the best ingredient. It's just a suggestion for experimenting
    (an excuse to drink lots of experimental beer purely in the interests of research )

    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    What is the brewing process and what do I add to produce natural enzymes??
    I think I need a recipe...And a process!!
    Sorry Fred, not much time right now. Will get on later.
    In principle we just need to find an alternative process to malting (as we know it) to convert the starch to sugar.
    This fungus stuff (Rhizopus Oryzae) can do that quite well. So it's a natural and cheap way of 'malting'
    the barley.
    Can you get hold of 'Rhizopus Oryzae'? It's used quite a lot in Asian food preparation/cooking (especially China)

    I've never done this either


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