why stay here if you hate the people so much

[stevewool]

well just watched the channel 4 news and there was the chap on, a cleric i think you call him but i could be mistaken, anyway he was asked would he apologize for what happened yesterday and he was sort off involved with these men ie, talking praying with them,
Well what a orrible man he was, and would he say sorry not one jot, hes on benifits and lives here but he hates the goverment and the british army so why is he here,,
We pay to keep people in this country who can call and hate anyone they want and shout it out loud too, but can we, i dont think so, deport everyone that is like this man, deport his family, his followers too, ban any outdoor prayer meetings and if anyone breaks these rulls send them back to the country where every they came from, dont get me wrong i am not the sort of person going out with a mask on hidding my face shouting and screaming, making threats, i am just a english man trying to defend this land,just my thoughts

[imagine]

and it should be done now, hard to do now but a few more years pass and it will be impossible

[Terpe]

Those people are here to cause mayhem and radicalisation.
That's why they need weeding out and dealt with.

But as I've mentioned in another thread, how do you prevent the evil spread of these kinds of people via the internet?

[les_taxi]

Eradicate their religion if it's the basis for the trouble,make it illegal in this country,if it means so much to them let them go live in an Islamic country!

[imagine]

cant help thinking ,, what goes around comes around, im thinking back to history and holy wars etc

[Terpe]

Eradicate their religion if it's the basis for the trouble,make it illegal in this country,if it means so much to them let them go live in an Islamic country!

It's not religion per se, it's the radical nature of their belief.
You don't need religion to believe in violent extremism, but it serves as a pretty good vehicle.
That's just my opinion anyway.

I might be wrong. I usually am

[Ako Si Jamie]

Even if the total population of the world were muslims, twisted individuals such as Abu Hamza would still make up an excuse to cause trouble. It's just the way some human beings are. They get off on it.

[les_taxi]

Muslims attack muslims all the time

[SimonH]

This country is ed, which is why I'm seriously thinking of setting up home in Palawan.

[Terpe]

This country is ed, which is why I'm seriously thinking of setting up home in Palawan.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you have an understanding of how current tourism levels is helping keep Palawan relatively safe?
It had quite a history.
Kidnap for ransom being one.

[Jamesey]

Muslims attack muslims all the time

You are correct. There's huge amounts of violence between Muslims. For example the Iran - Iraq war, the recent uprisings in North Africa, bombings at markets in Afghanistan, war in Syria.....

[SimonH]

Hi Terpe, no I didn't know about the history of Palawan, but if what you say is correct then it can only get safer as tourism is on the increase.
The history of terrorism in London didn't stop me working there either.
To be totally honest it's not the way the country is going that's making me think of jumping ship as it were, it's more of a mid life thing
Bought the sports car etc, now thinking I'm half way there and don't want to work to live anymore so liquidate assets here and be a beach bum over there

[stevewool]

well its my plan to move as soon as we think its right and we have enough funds too, but i will make sure where ever we move we shall keeps our heads down and learn to live in the community that we shall call home, hopefully safe and sound plus SUN and WARMTH too

[grahamw48]

"I am the Tory Party's Worst Nightmare. I am a White, Tax-Paying, God
fearing English man. I am a hard working Brit and I work long hours to
earn a living.

I believe in God and the freedom of religion, but I don't push it on
others. I believe in British products and buy them whenever I can.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and not to some governmental
functionary, to share with others who don't work!

I think owning a home doesn't make you a capitalist; it makes you a
smart Brit. I think being a minority does not make you noble or
victimized, and does not entitle you to anything. Get over it. Join
in with the majority!

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you should do it in
English. I believe there should be no other language option.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and
where they want to.

My heroes are fellow Brits like Freddy Flintoff and Winston
Churchill and I know I've missed a few thousand!!!!!

I don't hate the rich. What I hate is the way they always manage to
avoid paying proper taxes. I don't pity the poor, I just hate the
way they are always moaning that they are hard done by!!

I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time watching or arguing
about it. I believe if you don't like the way things are here, go
back to where you came from and change your own country!

This is ENGLAND.....We like it the way it is and even more so the way
it was...so stop trying to change it to look like some other socialist
country! If you were born or legally migrated here and don't like
it... you are free to move to any Socialist country that will have
you. I believe it is time to really clean house, starting with the
House of Commons, the seat of our biggest problems.

I want to know where the "Do Gooders" get their money from, and why
are they always part of the problem and not the solution?
Can I get an AMEN on that one?

I also think the cops have the right to pull you over if you're
breaking the law, regardless of what race, colour or creed you
are. And, no, I don't mind having my face shown on my driving
licence. I think it's good....

I dislike those people trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to
their cause....Get a job and support yourself and your family!

I believe 'illegal' is illegal no matter what the lawyers think!

I believe the Union Jack flag should be allowed to be flown anywhere
in the United Kingdom !

If this makes me a BAD Brit, then yes, I'm a BAD Brit. If you are a
BAD Brit too, please forward this to everyone you know....

We want our country back! My Country.....
I hope this offends all illegal aliens.
My great, great grandfather watched as his friends died in the Boer
War. My grandfather watched and bled as his friends died in World Wars
1&2. I watched as my friends died in Sierra Leone Bosnia, & Desert
Storm. Our sons and daughters watched & bled as their friends died in
Afghanistan and Iraq . None of them died for the Afghanistan and Iraq
Flag. Every Briton died for the British flag.

At one high school, foreign students raised a Middle East flag on a
school flag pole. British students took it down. Guess who was
expelled...the students who took it down.

West London high school students were sent home, because they wore T-
shirts with the Union Jack flag printed on them.

What is going on?? What idiots do we have in authority?? Enough is
enough.

This message needs to be viewed by every Brit; and every Briton needs
to stand up for Britain . We've bent over to appease the Brit-haters
long enough. I'm taking a stand.

I'm standing up because of the millions who died fighting in wars for
this country, and for the British flag.

And shame on anyone who tries to make this a racist message. IT IS
NOT !

Britons, stop giving away Your RIGHTS !

THIS IS OUR COUNTRY !

This statement DOES NOT mean I'm against immigration !

YOU ARE WELCOME HERE, IN MY COUNTRY, welcome to come legally:

1. Get a sponsor !
2. Learn the LANGUAGE, as immigrants have in the past!
3. Live by OUR rules ! Dress as we Britons Do
4. Get a job !
5. Pay YOUR Taxes !
6. No Social Security until you have earned it and paid for it !
7. Find a place to lay your head !

If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, then
YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM !

We've gone so far the other way... bent over backwards not to offend
anyone.

WAKE UP BRITAIN ! ! ! "

Rob Green...facebook status update.

[SimonH]

Copied, pasted and sent to everyone in my address book.
Thank you Graham

[grahamw48]

It seemed to cover most of what I wanted to say.

Also, would have been a bit churlish of me to edit out the belief in god bits...even though I'm a proud Atheist.

[Terpe]

Agree with everything there.

[RickyR]

Well written post Graham and totally correct.

[les_taxi]

I posted it on my facebook agree with nearly all of it