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    Question Q&A: Bulgarian and Romanian immigration

    At the end of 2013, Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the same rights to work in the UK as other EU citizens. The UK government is considering limiting their access to benefits, healthcare and housing. Here is a guide to the issues:

    What's happening?

    Bulgarians and Romanians gained the right to visa-free travel to the UK in 2007, when their countries joined the EU. But there were temporary restrictions on the kind of jobs they could take. Employers had to apply for work permits and migrants for an "accession worker card". Low-skilled workers were restricted to existing quota schemes in the agricultural and food processing sectors. These restrictions will be dropped on 1 January. Bulgarians and Romanians will also be entitled to claim the same benefits and NHS care as other EU citizens.

    What is the government worried about?

    Public concern over immigration is running high and ministers want to demonstrate to critics, such as the anti-EU party UKIP, that Britain is not a "soft touch" or beholden to Brussels. At the same time, they do not want to deter skilled migrants who can help the economy. David Cameron says he wants to make sure people come to the UK "for the right reasons", not just to claim benefits.

    Which other countries have imposed restrictions?

    Apart from Britain, eight countries have imposed restrictions of some kind on Romanians and Bulgarians, which will expire at the same time:

    Austria
    Belgium
    France
    Germany
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Spain
    The Netherlands

    How many Romanians and Bulgarians do ministers think will move to the UK?

    The coalition is not making any official predictions. Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has said he has no confidence in figures, published on his department's own website, predicting that about 13,000 will arrive. He knows that Labour got its fingers burned when it grossly underestimated the number of migrants expected to come from Eastern Europe in 2004, when Poland and other former Soviet bloc countries joined the EU. Pressure group Migration Watch has predicted 50,000 could come to the UK every year until 2019.

    Will it be the same as when Poland and other Eastern European countries joined the EU?

    The government insists the situation is very different this time as eight other EU countries will lift labour market restrictions at the same time. In 2004, only the UK, Ireland and Sweden opened their doors to Eastern European workers. Many Bulgarians and Romanians have already come to work in the UK since 2007 under various schemes.

    So how many Romanians and Bulgarians are living in the UK at the moment?

    According to the Office for National Statistics, in July 2012 there were 94,000 people who were born in Romania and 47,000 people who were born in Bulgaria resident in the UK.

    What benefits can European nationals currently claim?

    People coming to the UK from the European Economic Area - the EU member states and Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway - do not have unrestricted access to UK social security benefits and tax credits. Most will have to pass the habitual residence test before they can claim. To pass, you must have a "right to reside" in the UK, which means you are economically active, or are able to support yourself, and you must be intending to settle here for the time being - in other words, be "habitually resident". The test applies to British citizens returning to the UK after time abroad, as well as people coming to the UK from other countries. If you pass the test, you can claim housing benefit, council tax benefit, access to local authority housing, income support, jobseeker's allowance and employment and support allowance.

    How will the government make claiming benefits harder?

    The government says it is particularly concerned about the pressure created by migrants on local services, housing and the health service. To tackle this, the prime minister says he wants migrants to have to prove they are "genuinely seeking employment" to claim jobless benefits. This would be a tougher test than the current one and would include a requirement for jobseekers to speak English. Immigrants may also be kept off council house waiting lists in England for at least two years, under plans for councils to introduce a residency test. Mr Cameron says he wants the UK to get better at charging foreign governments for NHS treatment provided to non-working overseas nationals. Ministers are also examining the possibility of linking some benefits to contributions, which could exclude new arrivals from eligibility.

    What do Romania and Bulgaria think?

    They have reacted with anger and dismay, particularly at media portrayals of their citizens as benefit scroungers or criminals. Officials say most are hard-working and want to contribute to British society. They also insist that most Bulgarians and Romanians who want to be in the UK are already in the country and the predicted "flood" on 1 January will not happen. Most Romanians would prefer to live in Spain or Italy, where they find it easier to learn the language, embassy officials say.

    Why are those two countries being singled out for welfare restrictions?

    They are not. When the restrictions on Romanians and Bulgarians are lifted, the government wants to tighten up benefit rules for all migrants from the European Economic Area.

    What does Labour say?

    Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper says it is right to have conditions on benefits and public services for immigration because the system "needs to be fair and seen to be fair". However, the party has also warned against an "arms race on immigration rhetoric".

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21523319


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    Some roma gypsies from Romania......just one known example....they have been given a council house in a sought after part of town. Their out of control little was put in the corridor at the local school because he was throwing earth clods at the other kids. There he started trying to damage the wall by kicking it, he injured himself.
    The parents turned up in their BMW and started to take photographs with the intention of sueing the school for hurting him, fortunately there were enough witnesses including my friend who works there who could state what had really happened.

    No idea where they work to afford that and of course no politicians send THEIR kids to that school.

    Nice work if you can get it as grandad used to say


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    Just to say I'm not necessarily against anyone coming here as long as they are for the right reasons and intend contributing and behaving. Anyone else can go


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    Scum of the Earth.

    Wednesday night at about 21:30 I was dropping off some overseas relatives at Slough Train Station - out of the main exit walked 4 or 5 female Roma carrying their offspring back from the daily commute to London after a hard shift begging and shoplifting. Slough Council provide them with houses and season tickets.


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