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    Making any public place non smoking is good in my thoughts

    I had a distant relative here a couple of weeks ago, we went to a nice restaurant for a meal one evenings at a popular family location,

    my relation is now in a wheelchair, but getting in and out the place was made worse because of the amount of people outside the entrance smoking

    As a lifelong non smoker who dislikes the smell, it was like running an obstacle course !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickcant View Post

    my relation is now in a wheelchair, but getting in and out the place was made worse because of the amount of people outside the entrance smoking

    As a lifelong non smoker who dislikes the smell, it was like running an obstacle course !
    Mick
    Yeah ... I'm sure it would be, Mick. But the reality IS ... ... WHEREVER you go - be it a pub, restaurant or anywhere else, for that matter - you'll ALWAYS find people who enjoy a cigarette after a nice meal (me for one!) - and this is WHY even just a tiny modicum of foresight on the part of dictatorial politicians such as Mayor Duterte (along with those of his ilk, worldwide) wouldn't go amiss!

    Surely, it'd make sense to provide comfortable [separate] indoor Areas in bars and/or eateries for folk wishing to indulge their habit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post

    Surely, it'd make sense to provide comfortable [separate] indoor Areas in bars and/or eateries for folk wishing to indulge their habit.
    Plus ... NOBODY in their RIGHT mind ... wants to see THEIR neighbourhood streets littered with cigarette butts !!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Plus ... NOBODY in their RIGHT mind ... wants to see city/town streets littered with cigarette butts !!!
    Yes Arthur, I agree a room inside would benefit everyone, I have now seen some shops have a notice in the window saying "No Smoking in this doorway"
    There is no good answer really is there
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickcant View Post
    Yes Arthur, I agree a room inside would benefit everyone, I have now seen some shops have a notice in the window saying "No Smoking in this doorway"
    's precisely my point, Mick. I mean ... for as long as the current legislation persists - and especially when the weather is foul (as it frequently IS in the British Isles) - you're gonna have smokers huddled in closes or shop doorways. Which, in turn, drives our "nation of shopkeepers" (a term used by some historical figure of notoriety to define us) - and ... ... who can really blame them, tbh???

    Quote Originally Posted by mickcant View Post
    There is no good answer really is there
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    ... sadly, true!! Unless, of course, those responsible for our laws come forward with some fairer all round solution along similar lines to the one I've suggested ... in an attempt to keep ALL of us (smokers and non-smokers, alike) at least reasonably happy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    's precisely my point, Mick. I mean ...................... in an attempt to keep ALL of us (smokers and non-smokers, alike) at least reasonably happy.
    ... happiness is a cigar called 'Hamlet'!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... *happiness is a cigar called 'Hamlet'!
    *MINE ISN'T, though! ... I've never particularly cared much for the strong "taste" of cigars ... my individual preference being to stick with ONE (extremely satisfying) after~dinner, non-filtered cigarette, daily (using a holder) - allied to a penchant for puffing away merrily on a pipe, whenever I'm online at various intervals throughout each day. Helps my concentration, y'see!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Yeah ... I'm sure it would be, Mick. But the reality IS ... ... WHEREVER you go - be it a pub, restaurant or anywhere else, for that matter - you'll ALWAYS find people who enjoy a cigarette after a nice meal (me for one!) - and this is WHY even just a tiny modicum of foresight on the part of dictatorial politicians such as Mayor Duterte (along with those of his ilk, worldwide) wouldn't go amiss!

    Surely, it'd make sense to provide comfortable [separate] indoor Areas in bars and/or eateries for folk wishing to indulge their habit.
    I was beginning to think that I was the only outcast in this thread, just because the mayor does'nt smoke this stupid law imerges,even the president smokes so where will he gofor a quick drag if he ever comes to Davao. I was down town today for our weekly supplies trip, did I see any designated smoking area's? No. Did I see people smoking down side streets and back alleys? Yes. Lets be fair over this,give us smokers some leaway, even out door smoking area would be fine by me even if it's raining. I've been smoking for 55 years and not about to give up now.I used to enjoy our weekly down town jaunt, get supplies, have a meal, have a fag whenever, now it's a rush to get back home tothe safety ofmy own house again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keith britten View Post

    Lets be fair over this, give us smokers some leaway,
    , Keith ... fairness all round is MY motto! Alas this quality appears to be particularly thin on the ground these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by keith britten View Post
    I used to enjoy our weekly down town jaunt, get supplies, have a meal, have a fag whenever, now it's a rush to get back home to the safety of my own house again.
    ... thank God for the sanctuary of our own four walls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keith britten View Post
    I was beginning to think that I was the only outcast in this thread, just because the mayor does'nt smoke this stupid law imerges,even the president smokes so where will he gofor a quick drag if he ever comes to Davao. I was down town today for our weekly supplies trip, did I see any designated smoking area's? No. Did I see people smoking down side streets and back alleys? Yes. Lets be fair over this,give us smokers some leaway, even out door smoking area would be fine by me even if it's raining. I've been smoking for 55 years and not about to give up now.I used to enjoy our weekly down town jaunt, get supplies, have a meal, have a fag whenever, now it's a rush to get back home tothe safety ofmy own house again.
    If I was you Keith,I`d seriously consider moving..
    No way would I put up with that type of treatment.. Stuff the Mayor IMO,and stuff his laws.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    If I was you Keith,I`d seriously consider moving..
    No way would I put up with that type of treatment.. Stuff the Mayor IMO,and stuff his laws.

    Coming to an establishment near you soon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Coming to an establishment near you soon


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    Fortunately Peter,I live on nearly 4 Hectares of private land...
    Within those boundaries I will always be free to do whatever I like..
    Anyone I invite onto this private land is most welcome BUT unfortunately they have to adhere to my rules and I cannot abide the new school whingers etc.. They will be politely asked to leave!
    Think Woodstock.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post

    Fortunately Peter, I live on nearly 4 Hectares of private land...
    Within those boundaries I will always be free to do whatever I like..
    ... ... NO civic "hectoring" for you, then, Fred.


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