Hi yes thanks for the advice, my appeal is on the grounds of paper provided so we will not be having a hearing it will just be a decision either remade in manila or if refused then they do it in the uk, but i dont have too atend any hearing i chose the other option rather than atend in person,on the understanding that the refusal was over a minor matter and easily provable with the said documents i enclosed, hope this route is the right one maybe wishing id opted for hearing in person now.........