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    Asiana Airline Flight 214 crashed landed in San Francisco Airport

    FAA: Boeing 777 crashes at San Francisco International Airport

    (CNN) -- A Boeing 777 operated by Asiana Airlines crashed while landing Saturday at San Francisco International Airport, an FAA spokesman told CNN.



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    Looks like the undercarriage or tail has hit the lip of the runway. Looks like pilot error, he's landed short
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    I'm watching it. There are 2 pilots remember.

    Also lots of things that can go wrong....out of pilot's control (mechanical, electrical, bird strikes etc).


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    He landed short ...raised nose, engine power up just a few feet from the ground.... the pilot realised and up, burying the tail before he got to the runway. If he'd stayed straight, he would have landed OK
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    Apparently the plane was lacking speed and a stall alarm sounded as it approached the runway


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    Yeah, but WHY ? is the question.

    Too many people blaming the pilot.

    We'll all know the real facts in a few weeks.

    Meanwhile, it's cheap TV.


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    The NTSB will get to the bottom of it. Those guys don't leave any stone unturned.


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    That's because it is pilot error Graham
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    I'll let you have the last word Keith...well almost.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    I'll let you have the last word Keith...well almost.
    I've flown planes myself, I know pilot error when I see it ..... At least the passengers didn't have to wait 30 minutes before they could get off, as with Cebu policy
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    Tough on the girl passenger who got run over by the fire truck though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Tough on the girl passenger who got run over by the fire truck though.
    Oh that's terrible, suffering your worst nightmare and then getting run over


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Tough on the girl passenger who got run over by the fire truck though.
    Even more tough on the parents Graham!


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    I notice Asiana are offering good prices to Manila in November and 18 hours from Heathrow is not bad.
    They've ed themselves with me now. Not a chance


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    Just pack a fire extinguisher and a full harness seat belt.


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    I was looking to fly with asiana. Glad I chose cathay.


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    They need some of these...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheekee View Post
    I was looking to fly with asiana. Glad I chose cathay.
    Good record since 1972 ... so they must be due one


    On 16 July 1948, Miss Macao, a Cathay Pacific-subsidiary-operated Consolidated PBY-5A Catalina (VR-HDT) from Macau to Hong Kong was hijacked by four men, who killed the pilot after take-off. The aircraft crashed in the Pearl River Delta near Zhuhai. Twenty-six people died, leaving only one survivor, a hijacker. This was the first hijacking of a commercial airliner in the world.[157]
    On 24 February 1949, a Cathay Pacific Douglas DC-3 (VR-HDG) from Manila to Hong Kong, crashed near Braemar Reservoir after a go-around in poor weather. All 23 people on board died.[158]
    On 13 September 1949, a Cathay Pacific Douglas DC-3 (VR-HDW) departing from Anisakan, Burma, crashed on take-off when the right hand main gear leg collapsed. There were no reported fatalities.[159]
    On 23 July 1954, a Cathay Pacific Douglas DC-4 (VR-HEU) from Bangkok to Hong Kong was shot down by aircraft of the People's Liberation Army Air Force in the South China Sea near Hainan Island. Ten people died, leaving eight survivors. After the incident, Cathay Pacific received an apology and compensation from the People's Liberation Army Air Force. It was apparently mistaken for a Nationalist Chinese military aircraft.[160]
    On 5 November 1967, Cathay Pacific Flight 33, operated by a Convair 880 (VR-HFX) from Hong Kong to Saigon, overran the runway at Kai Tak Airport. One person was killed and the aircraft was written-off.
    On 15 June 1972, Cathay Pacific Flight 700Z, operated by a Convair 880 (VR-HFZ) from Bangkok to Hong Kong, disintegrated and crashed while the aircraft was flying at 29,000 feet (8,800 m) over Pleiku, Vietnam after a bomb exploded in a suitcase placed under a seat in the cabin, killing all 81 people on board.[161]
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    Lol. Think I deserved that...


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    According to the Telegraph the world's 10 safest airlines include ones from Taiwan and China and three which fly the UK to Manila route.

    Omitted from that list is another UK to Manila carrier that's worthy of a mention as according to Wikipedia this airline has never had any fatalities from a crash. It probably doesn't get included in the list due to the fact it's suffered a few Lebanese hijacks during the 80's - Kuwait Airways.

    Top 10

    1. Finnair
    2. Air New Zealand
    3. Cathay Pacific
    4. Emirates
    5. Etihad
    6. EVA Air
    7. TAP Portugal
    8. Hainan Airlines
    9. Virgin Australia
    10. British Airways

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...-revealed.html


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    The Pilot is reported as only having 43 hours spent flying Boeing 777's - I wonder if that is real or simulator time and if in the Sim how many landings did he do


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    According to the Telegraph the world's 10 safest airlines include ones from Taiwan and China and three which fly the UK to Manila route.
    If the results aren't based on the ratio of 'No. of flights:incidents', then it is pretty meaningless, and with Finnair being number one, it is meaningless

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    The Pilot is reported as only having 43 hours spent flying Boeing 777's - I wonder if that is real or simulator time and if in the Sim how many landings did he do
    That is real time, he would have done hours in a simulator. This is normal practise in the industry and works very well. He had two other qualified pilots with him. He either ignored the glide scope alarm, or switched it off.
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    That's 3 crashes in 25 years and 2 of them are down to Pilot error


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    That's 3 crashes in 25 years and 2 of them are down to Pilot error
    Most air accidents are down to pilot error. Usually because we decide to ignore what the instruments are telling us
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    And that includes the worst airline crash of all time in Tenerife. But in this case the pilot didn't listen to the tower.


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