Random visa checks at Tube station in ‘racist van’ area

[raynaputi]

6) you say you dont mind authorities asking for your ID (As long as they are Nice to you)....but i think its exactly that point...in this case the Immigration Officers were found to be NOT being nice and infact demanding non white people produce ID.

What I said was after they've checked that I'm a legal immigrant here, and they would be mean to me even if they have my proof, then that would be racist. I don't think asking for some identification is racist. This overreaction about just being asked for identification of someone's legality in this country is absurd, whether they were asked because they look Asian and not white. I've seen a Brazilian lady being interviewed about the check that happened. She said that the immigration officers just asked the people who got out of the coach for some IDs to check if they are legal here. She didn't find it offensive and said it's not a problem. I can't see what's offensive about it either.

I can't believe there are people here who complained about the troubles bringing their wives/partner in the UK are now protecting these illegals and saying what's happening is racist when they are only asked to prove they have the right to stay here. I would rather be asked by these officials instead of them not doing such checks. I don't know, it's so laughable really. The whole country is a soft touch when it comes to these illegals to be frank. They want them out but can't even approve the checks that should be made years ago. At least there are still some here in the forum who talk sense.

[lordna]

What I said was after they've checked that I'm a legal immigrant here, and they would be mean to me even if they have my proof, then that would be racist. I don't think asking for some identification is racist. This overreaction about just being asked for identification of someone's legality in this country is absurd, whether they were asked because they look Asian and not white. I've seen a Brazilian lady being interviewed about the check that happened. She said that the immigration officers just asked the people who got out of the coach for some IDs to check if they are legal here. She didn't find it offensive and said it's not a problem. I can't see what's offensive about it either.

I can't believe there are people here who complained about the troubles bringing their wives/partner in the UK are now protecting these illegals and saying what's happening is racist when they are only asked to prove they have the right to stay here. I would rather be asked by these officials instead of them not doing such checks. I don't know, it's so laughable really. The whole country is a soft touch when it comes to these illegals to be frank. They want them out but can't even approve the checks that should be made years ago. At least there are still some here in the forum who talk sense.

I didn't say asking for ID was racist...although asking for ID without having the Immigration officer having first explaine his reasons for stopping you and that he has some form of evidence that you may be here illegally IS contrary to the UKBA manual(already listed earlier) rules that they should be following. I did say that selecting people on the basis of their colour was Racist and also contrary to the UKBA rules. If the person concerned didn't find it offensive then fine but some did and their complaints are justified. Lets not forget the vast majority of people concerned here were NOT illegally in the country and as British citizens of whatever colour ARE entitled to be treated with respect and in the words of Nick Clegg where no law-abiding individual ever feels intimidated by the state, just for going about their day-to-day business.
Where people aren’t cast under suspicion simply because of who they are, or where they’re from
Your misinformed if you think i am protecting illegal immigrants because UKBA are NOT following their own rulebook. I am however concerned for the majority who are legal and deserve to be treated corerctly despite the small number that clearly are not and deserve to be politely and efficiently removed from our shores.

[Dedworth]

I didn't say asking for ID was racist...

However you did say this :-

Perhaps some on here would have preferred it if the Nazis were in power then we would all have to show id and maybe wear a star on our clothing.

aimed at those anti illegal immigration amongst us who feel it is correct for the authorities to be making these checks.

I'm going to London next week and have no objection if stopped for a check, I'm legal and don't have a chip on my shoulder.

[lordna]

However you did say this :-



aimed at those anti illegal immigration amongst us who feel it is correct for the authorities to be making these checks.

I'm going to London next week and have no objection if stopped for a check, I'm legal and don't have a chip on my shoulder.

Most people including myself are against illegal immigration and i didn't say i was against immigration checks.I thought i had made it clear that i DO think checks need to be carried out lawfully, please accept my apologiesfor not making it clearer as you obviously mis interpreted my earlier posts.

Obviously you missed reading what i said in post #65 which as i wrote it would naturally imply i include myself...copied below to save you trying to find it:-

I am sure most people dont mind being stopped IF THEY ARE STOPPED AND QUESTIONED IN THE RIGHT WAY.

You seem to have also missed what i already said in post #32 again copied below just for you:-

If a police or immigration officer gives a valid reason ie he/she can demonstrate that an immigration or other offence is being commited, then i have no objection to identifying myself.

[Dedworth]

Most people including myself are against illegal immigration and i didn't say i was against immigration checks.I thought i had made it clear that i DO think checks need to be carried out lawfully, please accept my apologiesfor not making it clearer as you obviously mis interpreted my earlier posts.

Obviously you missed reading what i said in post #65 which as i wrote it would naturally imply i include myself...copied below to save you trying to find it:-

I am sure most people dont mind being stopped IF THEY ARE STOPPED AND QUESTIONED IN THE RIGHT WAY.

You seem to have also missed what i already said in post #32 again copied below just for you:-

If a police or immigration officer gives a valid reason ie he/she can demonstrate that an immigration or other offence is being commited, then i have no objection to identifying myself.

You fail to convince me. Your posts on this thread and others give a very clear impression that you are against ridding our country of illegals.

[lordna]

You fail to convince me. Your posts on this thread and others give a very clear impression that you are against ridding our country of illegals.

Not at all Only the ones that can't read properly would get that impression!I suggest you carefully reveiw exactly what i have written.