Random visa checks at Tube station in ‘racist van’ area

[London_Manila]

Who cares who they stop anyway

If the people have the right immigration status then they have nothing to worry about

I am sure that some of these do-gooders would have it that no one is ever stopped

This country is bursting at the seams with illegals and its about time something is done about it

The police in London get all these kind of complaints when they target certain ethnic groups who it is well proven commit most of the street crime

The Uk border agency should target the whole London underground network not just a few token stations

[lordna]

Who cares who they stop anyway

If the people have the right immigration status then they have nothing to worry about

I am sure that some of these do-gooders would have it that no one is ever stopped

This country is bursting at the seams with illegals and its about time something is done about it

The police in London get all these kind of complaints when they target certain ethnic groups who it is well proven commit most of the street crime

The Uk border agency should target the whole London underground network not just a few token stations

Lets look at the statistics quoted on here in previous posts. 140 arrested and 1 in 60 are illegal. That means 140 times 60 = 840 or around that number would have been stopped and asked about their immigration status.

I am sure most people dont mind being stopped IF THEY ARE STOPPED AND QUESTIONED IN THE RIGHT WAY. This also means that the Immigration Officers had reason to suspect that 840 people were committing an immigration offence? I don't think so. Clearly these 840 were found to be legal immigrants or british citizens both groups who have the same rights as you or me to be treated fairly, politely and with respect. The press reports are indicating that this was NOT the case.

Perhaps there are a lot of illegal immigrants but who has the true figure anyway as the government dont keep the statistics, its just a guess! Illegal immigrants are still the minority and as I believe Graham has mentioned any laws etc should be for the greater good. That being the case , immigration officers need to follow their own rules and treat all people stopped with respect.If they then prove they have an illegal immigrant Then the person concerned should be removed from the UK as efficiently as possible but firmly and with respect. Our reputation as a country is important that both legal and illegal immigrants get the message we will not tolerate illegals BUT legal immigrants and UK rersidents ARE treated fairly by everyone.

I seem to be repeating myself a lot here so I don't plan on saying anything further on this matter as clearly others here do not share my opinion or are not prepared to critisize the opinions of others.

[joebloggs]

Lets look at the statistics quoted on here in previous posts. 140 arrested and 1 in 60 are illegal. That means 140 times 60 = 840 or around that number would have been stopped and asked about their immigration status.

I am sure most people dont mind being stopped IF THEY ARE STOPPED AND QUESTIONED IN THE RIGHT WAY. This also means that the Immigration Officers had reason to suspect that 840 people were committing an immigration offence? I don't think so. Clearly these 840 were found to be legal immigrants or british citizens both groups who have the same rights as you or me to be treated fairly, politely and with respect. The press reports are indicating that this was NOT the case.

Perhaps there are a lot of illegal immigrants but who has the true figure anyway as the government dont keep the statistics, its just a guess! Illegal immigrants are still the minority and as I believe Graham has mentioned any laws etc should be for the greater good. That being the case , immigration officers need to follow their own rules and treat all people stopped with respect.If they then prove they have an illegal immigrant Then the person concerned should be removed from the UK as efficiently as possible but firmly and with respect. Our reputation as a country is important that both legal and illegal immigrants get the message we will not tolerate illegals BUT legal immigrants and UK rersidents ARE treated fairly by everyone.

I seem to be repeating myself a lot here so I don't plan on saying anything further on this matter as clearly others here do not share my opinion or are not prepared to critisize the opinions of others.

if say 840 were questioned, from the reports I've read, but i may be wrong, its other people who have said that it appears UBKA were stopping non whites only. i don't think I've read an interview or press article from someone who was actually stopped.

if they were treated badly why haven't these non white people who were stopped talked to the press ? until we've read from people who were actually interviewed we don't know how they think they were treated.

[raynaputi]

if say 840 were questioned, from the reports I've read, but i may be wrong, its other people who have said that it appears UBKA were stopping non whites only. i don't think I've read an interview or press article from someone who was actually stopped.

if they were treated badly why haven't these non white people who were stopped talked to the press ? until we've read from people who were actually interviewed we don't know how they think they were treated.

It was shown in Sky News, they interviewed a lady. What she said was UKBA asked everyone in the station when she was there. She said that immigration officers informed them that they are conducting some checks. The lady said she didn't find it offensive at all or racist. I would try to look a video of it. I've seen it the other night.

EDIT: Video's here.. http://news.sky.com/story/1123466/home-office-immigration-tactics-investigated Take note that the guy they arrested (getting in the van) has a white skin.

[London_Manila]

Lets look at the statistics quoted on here in previous posts. 140 arrested and 1 in 60 are illegal. That means 140 times 60 = 840 or around that number would have been stopped and asked about their immigration status.

I am sure most people dont mind being stopped IF THEY ARE STOPPED AND QUESTIONED IN THE RIGHT WAY. This also means that the Immigration Officers had reason to suspect that 840 people were committing an immigration offence? I don't think so. Clearly these 840 were found to be legal immigrants or british citizens both groups who have the same rights as you or me to be treated fairly, politely and with respect. The press reports are indicating that this was NOT the case.

Perhaps there are a lot of illegal immigrants but who has the true figure anyway as the government dont keep the statistics, its just a guess! Illegal immigrants are still the minority and as I believe Graham has mentioned any laws etc should be for the greater good. That being the case , immigration officers need to follow their own rules and treat all people stopped with respect.If they then prove they have an illegal immigrant Then the person concerned should be removed from the UK as efficiently as possible but firmly and with respect. Our reputation as a country is important that both legal and illegal immigrants get the message we will not tolerate illegals BUT legal immigrants and UK rersidents ARE treated fairly by everyone.

I seem to be repeating myself a lot here so I don't plan on saying anything further on this matter as clearly others here do not share my opinion or are not prepared to critisize the opinions of others.

Why should the immigration officer need any reason to suspect anything
Just fall in line and let them check and ask everyone
Having some weird criteria about who they can ask is just plain stupid
Most of these illegal immigrants get off with some lame excuse on their appeal anyway
normally something crass like their cat is pregnant and who will care for the kittens

I dont need anyone to tell me about numbers london is overrun with illegal immigrants