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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    That's correct Peter, Maritess is taking hers again in October
    Didn't doubt you Michael........just made my eyes water at the cost Hahaha

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    ..By the way, she is using review book IELTS target 5. It does not indicate that it's B1. Also, what is the difference between B1 and the test she took in Philippines? Because her pass certificate does not say whether it's A1 or B1.
    Did Maritess take the IELTS test in Philippines?
    If so then she would have already passed at level B1 or higher, so she should certainly have no difficulty in achieving the required level B1 again. Especially having spent time here in UK.

    There's actually no such test called A1 test, B1 test etc. These are just descriptions of levels of competence described in the Common European Framework of Reference (CEFR) that can be applied to the scores of various tests.

    There is no actual pass or fail in IELTS, it's all down to scores.
    For IELTS, each candidate takes all elements of the test (Reading, Writing, Speaking and Listening) then gets graded on each element. The grades range from 1 to 9 with 1 being basically no ability at all (except a few odd words) and 9 having fluency and full understanding.

    UKBA accept A1 level for settlement type visa but now will require B1 for ILR and Naturalisation (from October 2013 onwards)

    IELTS candidates need to achieve a grade score of 4 to satisfy UKBA (4 is actually evaluated as a CEFR Level B1)
    Officially IELTS does not have any accepted level A1 score evaluation.

    Michael, I would not expect that the certificate of Maritess will state A1, B1 or any other CEFR level descriptor but I would expect the certificate to state the grade/score for each element. Can you confirm that this is the case?

    As I said Michael, I would seriously doubt that anyone married to a Brit who has lived here in UK for a couple of years would have any difficulty at all in easily achieving level B1
    Don't forget UKBA only require Speaking and Listening elements. No need to be concerned about any other elements or scores.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Didn't doubt you Michael........just made my eyes water at the cost Hahaha



    Did Maritess take the IELTS test in Philippines?
    If so then she would have already passed at level B1 or higher, so she should certainly have no difficulty in achieving the required level B1 again. Especially having spent time here in UK.

    There's actually no such test called A1 test, B1 test etc. These are just descriptions of levels of competence described in the Common European Framework of Reference (CEFR) that can be applied to the scores of various tests.

    There is no actual pass or fail in IELTS, it's all down to scores.
    For IELTS, each candidate takes all elements of the test (Reading, Writing, Speaking and Listening) then gets graded on each element. The grades range from 1 to 9 with 1 being basically no ability at all (except a few odd words) and 9 having fluency and full understanding.

    UKBA accept A1 level for settlement type visa but now will require B1 for ILR and Naturalisation (from October 2013 onwards)

    IELTS candidates need to achieve a grade score of 4 to satisfy UKBA (4 is actually evaluated as a CEFR Level B1)
    Officially IELTS does not have any accepted level A1 score evaluation.

    Michael, I would not expect that the certificate of Maritess will state A1, B1 or any other CEFR level descriptor but I would expect the certificate to state the grade/score for each element. Can you confirm that this is the case?

    As I said Michael, I would seriously doubt that anyone married to a Brit who has lived here in UK for a couple of years would have any difficulty at all in easily achieving level B1
    Don't forget UKBA only require Speaking and Listening elements. No need to be concerned about any other elements or scores.
    Yes her scores are Listening 5.5, Reading 4.5, Writing 5.5, Speaking 6.0, Overall 5.5, She's busy studying at this moment and worries her pretty little head off!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Yes her scores are Listening 5.5, Reading 4.5, Writing 5.5, Speaking 6.0, Overall 5.5, She's busy studying at this moment and worries her pretty little head off!
    Try to put her mind at rest Michael.

    Those scores are already above the required B1 level of 4. If she did it before she can do it again


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Yes her scores are Listening 5.5, Reading 4.5, Writing 5.5, Speaking 6.0, Overall 5.5, She's busy studying at this moment and worries her pretty little head off!
    Why does your wife have to resit the test again if she passed it once already and scored a B1 and above.
    My wife passed her IELTS test in the Philippines and easy cleared the B1 bench mark, You telling me she has to resit an exam she has passed already


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    Why does your wife have to resit the test again if she passed it once already and scored a B1 and above.
    My wife passed her IELTS test in the Philippines and easy cleared the B1 bench mark, You telling me she has to resit an exam she has passed already
    Yes she took it the second time because her first test would have expired at the time she applied for her ILR, a few days after passing her second test it was announced that you could use the expired certificate!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Yes she took it the second time because her first test would have expired at the time she applied for her ILR, a few days after passing her second test it was announced that you could use the expired certificate!
    That must be sooo annoying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Yes she took it the second time because her first test would have expired at the time she applied for her ILR, a few days after passing her second test it was announced that you could use the expired certificate!
    I thought this was no longer an issue, as 'reported' on this forum a number of times in recent months? A pass is a pass, and although the certificate expires it will still be accepted for ILR. After all, how could your wife's English have got worse?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor View Post
    I thought this was no longer an issue, as 'reported' on this forum a number of times in recent months? A pass is a pass, and although the certificate expires it will still be accepted for ILR. After all, how could your wife's English have got worse?
    s, Trefor ... I totally agree. But, for some reason(s) best known to themselves, the boffins who compile and implement these rules - and plain commonsense - seem to be at variance with each other in this respect.

    Either that, or they see the constant changes as an ideal extra money spinner!


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