Afterlife

[imagine]

some say what you see as you are dying is a chemical reaction in the brain in order for nature to give you a peaceful send off,
like many stories iv heard of the warm light you wait to enter as you die, i have been there and seen it,i waited there for a decision, i heard voices talking around me not by my ears and i felt their presence ,i didnt enter the light, i was sent back, guess it wasn't my time, this happened in my teens,

more recently in hospital just about 4 years ago, i lay in bed, 2 spirits came to visit me a young boy and a younger girl, they sat and talked with me, i asked where i was, they replied you are in a waiting area, after chatting a while they left and said they would return, and they did each day for 3 days

[gWaPito]

some say what you see as you are dying is a chemical reaction in the brain in order for nature to give you a peaceful send off,
like many stories iv heard of the warm light you wait to enter as you die, i have been there and seen it,i waited there for a decision , i heard voices talking around me not by my ears and i felt their presance ,i didnt enter the light , i was sent back,guess it wasn't my time, this happened in my teens,

more recently in hospital just about 4 years ago, i lay in bed , 2 spirits came to visit me a young boy and a younger girl, they sat and talked with me, i asked where i was, they replied you are in a waiting area, after chatting a while they left and said they would return, and they did each day for 3 days

Thank you Stewart...Heartwarming stuff!!!.....these are the things what Sue, my first wife told me..I would of said the same but, I'm not in the right frame for ridicule

[Doc Alan]

This is a sensitive topic. Of the many post-mortem examinations I have performed as a doctor, the overwhelming wishes of relatives and other loved ones are – apart from knowing the cause(s) of death – that the death was peaceful; and if not, that suffering was for as short a time as possible.


MANY, in my experience, gain consolation from the belief that there is some form of life after death, and they will be re-united in some form of heaven with already deceased loved ones. My responsibility is limited to a sensitive and clear explanation of the cause(s) of death with contributory factors. It is certainly NOT – especially at such a time – to pour scorn over any beliefs people may have, especially if it helps the grieving process.


To ascribe a purpose to life is, however, in my opinion a teleological explanation ( teleology means explaining ANY phenomenon in terms of purpose ). Life started with chance chemical events eventually resulting in simple one-celled organisms. These evolved through survival of the fittest. Any mutation resulting in a survival advantage was likely to be perpetuated in subsequent generations. We continue to evolve, and our intelligence means that it can be used to benefit survival ( warm clothes ; antibiotics, drugs for diabetes ) – and also cause untold numbers of premature deaths ( violent acts and wars ).


Viruses live ( for a limited time outside cells ), as do bacteria, plants, animals and birds at various stages in evolution. When bacteria are killed by antibiotics, some survive and may kill the patient. Animals may be slaughtered or die “ naturally “.


Just because we are – arguably – at the top of the evolutionary tree does not mean, in my opinion, that we are any more or less likely to have, or deserve, any form of " life after death " than bacteria or other form of life.


We are capable through our intelligence of having purposes in life - unfortunately not all good. Hitler, Chairman Mao, Stalin and others abused these on a massive scale. Far more, like Dr Harold Shipman ( who probably killed hundreds of his patients ) abused them on a lesser scale.


As individuals, no matter what our beliefs, we should certainly have a moral obligation to do good during our life on earth, and in so doing gain pleasure and peace of mind for ourselves. We don’t know what the future may hold. Be positive, make the most of every day, and my best wishes as always to every member and their loved ones for good health .

[gWaPito]

Im pondering your post Doc ..I'll reply later...I'm sure we all agree on your last sentence, I most certainly do.

A rep on it's way

[grahamw48]

Good post Doc....rep on the way from me too.

[Trefor]

Has anyone read Fluke by James Herbert?

[stevewool]

afterlife, i want to enjoy this life

[marksroomspain]

afterlife, i want to enjoy this life

[Arthur Little]

afterlife, i want to enjoy this life

Fair enough ... ... don't we ALL?? But pause for a moment, take a look around you, and it'll soon become patently obvious that there are some people in this life who seldom seem to be given that chance ... those whose whole lives are a mess - often due to circumstances beyond their control - while others continue to prosper ... and I'm NOT necessarily talking financially!

[stevewool]

so true Arthur, as long as you do what you can when you can to help others, everyone needs that sometimes in there life

[Arthur Little]

so true Arthur, as long as you do what you can when you can to help others, everyone needs that sometimes in there life

, Steve ... well~ said ... a very from a true gentleman!

[marksroomspain]

so true Arthur, as long as you do what you can when you can to help others, everyone needs that sometimes in there life

All I want in this life is my first bronze star here on filipino UK

But honestly guys your right the greatest pleasure is to actually give something to others in life without expecting anything in return.

[grahamw48]

All I want in this life is my first bronze star here on filipino UK

But honestly guys your right the greatest pleasure is to actually give something to others in life without expecting anything in return.

I think I may have just given you your star.

[marksroomspain]

I think I may have just given you your star.

Graham your a star

[Arthur Little]

All I want in this life is my first bronze star here on filipino UK

Aha ... I see you've got it, Mark ... and well~deserved it is, too, if I may say so!

[marksroomspain]

Aha ... I see you've got it, Mark ... and well~deserved it is, too, if I may say so!

Cheers Arthur onwards and upwards

[grahamw48]

That makes two of you then Arthur.

Makes up for the grumpy old gits on here.

[Rosie1958]

During our first night in Phuket in 2006, I believe I saw a ghost in our room at the beach resort on the far south of the island. I woke up in the early hours of the morning and can still vividly remember seeing the apparition of a small oriental girl with short black hair and a big smile who was trying to open a cupboard door in the room (either the fridge or the safe). I felt absolutely terrified and was unable to move in bed, unsure whether it was a ghost or a burglar……..!

The following morning, we read about the hundreds of people who lost their lives during the Tsunami on the beach directly opposite, in the resort and the local area. I’m a very level headed person but the experience I had the night before just felt so real. To this day I have never forgotten it despite wondering whether my mind was playing tricks with me whilst I was half asleep but I didn’t know about the damage to our resort and the huge loss of life until the next day.

I remain open minded about the afterlife.

[imagine]

well doc the single cel evolving into 2 cells dependant of each other to re produce,

well would you adam and eve it

some good posts here but for those who who cant see or beleive a maker or afterlife, i wonder how can they beleive we exist here at all

[marksroomspain]

well doc the single cel evolving into 2 cells dependant of each other to re produce,

well would you adam and eve it

some good posts here but for those who who cant see or beleive a maker or afterlife, i wonder how can they beleive we exist here at all

[grahamw48]

well doc the single cel evolving into 2 cells dependant of each other to re produce,

well would you adam and eve it

some good posts here but for those who who cant see or beleive a maker or afterlife, i wonder how can they beleive we exist here at all

Well, we apparently all have a double somewhere in another dimension.

I just hope mine didn't make the same mistakes in life as me.

[imagine]

Well, we apparently all have a double somewhere in another dimension.

I just hope mine didn't make the same mistakes in life as me.

he proberbly is your total opposite

[grahamw48]

Yes, goodnight from me...and goodnight from him.

[imagine]

not getting much time lately being busy preparing , but i see in my crystal ball that il be back with some deserved reps to hand out, but right now its bed time, so it good night from me

[Arthur Little]

i see in my crystal ball that il be back with some deserved reps to hand out

Thanks so much for the rep you gave me, Stewart ...

[imagine]

Thanks so much for the rep you gave me, Stewart ...

your

[grahamw48]

your

...and me. Thanks mate.

[imagine]

...and me. Thanks mate.

your too

[grahamw48]

The rational in me says no, there is no 'heaven'.

The irrational hopes that there is, when thinking of my loved ones who've passed on.

[malditako]

i am a christian and yes i do believe and would want to believe...I rather put myself and my son in a condition that death is not something to scared about and that there's a better place after death. If others believe that religion has been design to control mind as long as its making them a better person then so be it.