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    Question Airbus or Boeing for PAL's Manila-London flights?


    Philippine Airlines president Ramon Ang (left) and UK trade minister Lord Stephen Green(right) exchange gifts to mark the local carrier's return to London after 15 years

    A long-haul and wide-bodied unit of either Boeing or Airbus will be used in the November 4 Manila-London flights of legacy carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL).

    Whether a US-made Boeing or Europe-made Airbus aircraft will be used for the route highlights how the rivalry between the two rival global manufacturers is present in Asian skies, including the Philippines. PAL was once a struggling local carrier but is now revived and aggressively expanding.

    "We are utilizing either [Boeing] 777-300ERs and [Airbus] 340-300 for long haul," PAL president Ramon Ang replied when asked about on the carrier's choice aircraft for the route in a press conference on Tuesday, September 17.

    "[For] long-haul [flights that involve] non-stop 13-hour [travel], you need to use 777 or 340's. Those are the only available airlines," he explained.

    Boeing's 777 aircraft has a 370-seat capacity, while Airbus A340 has 264.

    PAL's return to the United Kingdom after 15 years was marked by a "renewal of ties" ceremony with UK Trade Minister Lord Stephen Green of Hurstpierpoint in Makati City

    Some parts of Airbus units are sourced from the UK.

    "We've very happy that London is PAL's first Europe destination since flights to that continent were discontinued in 1998," said Ang during the press conference

    PAL will fly 5x a week (Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday) departing Manila in the morning and arriving at Terminal 4 of London's Heathrow airport, the world's busiest.

    "That we have been given permission to fly to Heathrow makes our return much more meaningful. We take this as a strong vow of confidence by UK authorities in PAL's ability to bring in the passenger traffic volume worthy of the world's top airlines," Ang added.

    "I am confident that these flights will greatly enhance the relationship between the UK and the Philippines," Lord green said.

    The direct Manila-London flights in November marks the first time the Philippines is returning to European skies.

    The Philippines and the UK government has an existing bilateral air agreement for up to 7x a week flights.

    The European Union lifted its safety ban on Philippine carriers in July after the local aviation regulator met the safety standards of the 27-member economic bloc

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    http://www.rappler.com/business/indu...london-flights


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    With only six weeks to go you'd have thought they'd have decided which aircraft they'll be using

    Maybe they're waiting for Tesco or suchlike to do a buy one get one free on B777's


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    I am sort of interested in seeing what the price would be, current preferred airline is Cathay to Cebu via HK with usually just an hour or three stopover each way. If we went PAL to Manila it would usually necessitate a couple of grumpy taxi rides, an overnight stop, and an internal flight to Tag with baggage charges, so door to door its quicker with Cathay even if it isn't direct. Great if you live in NCR of course. We would also have concerns over the standard of service at the end of a 13 hour flight. I wonder what nationality/experience the pilots would be and where the plane was maintained when they finally choose which one


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    another interesting article can be found in this link
    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...trade-with-phl


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    My bet will be Boeing777 300!


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    Quote Originally Posted by malchard888 View Post
    another interesting article can be found in this link
    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...trade-with-phl
    Yep, interesting write up.
    Would I be dreaming if I thought it may lead to Philippine Nurses/Carers being allowed back to UK in numbers ??
    I hope it could happen


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    My bet will be Boeing777 300!
    In every other article I have read on the subject they have already stated it will be the boeing.


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    ive just worked out the price at the current exchange rates and the flight is coming in at 660 pounds .well there are much better deals around at the moment but for those who don,t want the hassle of changing planes I guess it will suit better.If anyone one here decides to fly with them please give us a report and tell us what you think.It will be interesting to know about the food quality etc .


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    Hopefully booking a trip with PAL today or tomorrow for Christmas / New year - £732 return which i think is good for a late booking..


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger31 View Post
    ive just worked out the price at the current exchange rates and the flight is coming in at 660 pounds .well there are much better deals around at the moment but for those who don,t want the hassle of changing planes I guess it will suit better.If anyone one here decides to fly with them please give us a report and tell us what you think.It will be interesting to know about the food quality etc .
    The food quality would certainly matter to me!


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    Well it is definitely the 777 as my booking shows


    London (LHR), Heathrow Airport, United Kingdom, GB
    Mon, 23 Dec 2013, 16:15
    Terminal: TERMINAL 4 Manila (MNL), Ninoy Aquino International Airport, Philippines, PH
    Tue, 24 Dec 2013, 12:50
    Terminal: TERMINAL 2 Philippine Airlines
    PR 721 Fare Family: Budget Economy
    Booking Class: O Flying Time: 12hr and 35min
    Stops: (0) Non-Stop
    Boeing 777-300ER


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    Can we trust PAL?


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    Quote Originally Posted by chino View Post
    Hopefully booking a trip with PAL today or tomorrow for Christmas / New year - £732 return which i think is good for a late booking..
    Well done chino...go fill your boots!


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    I'll still be taking my cheap flight to The Philippines via a 5 hr stopover in Korea. What's 24 hrs between friends anyway


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    I'll still be taking my cheap flight to The Philippines via a 5 hr stopover in Korea. What's 24 hrs between friends anyway
    Have flown Singapore Airlines in the past with a 22hour stopover, it didn't seem like 22 hours because at that time you could get the shuttle and do the tours for free if flying with SA!


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    You still can get free tours in Singapore. I'm breaking my journey there when I next go to the Phils in a couple of months.


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    Ive just arrived home today after paying 475 with cathay. But surely its great news to fly direct into Manila. Ofcourse the price matters but to have the option to take only 1 flight is brilliant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    Ive just arrived home today after paying 475 with cathay. But surely its great news to fly direct into Manila.
    I am a gold FF with qatar... trying PAL in December, i will let you know what it is like as PAL customer service has been great in the past (missing bag) - though onboard it was so so (longest flight only to TPE / MNL)


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    I wonder who will be doing the maintenance - my mates an Aircraft Engineer and he said BA, KLM & Etihad are bidding


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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander01 View Post
    You still can get free tours in Singapore. I'm breaking my journey there when I next go to the Phils in a couple of months.
    Thanks for that Brian, nice to know the free tour and shuttle are still available, hope you enjoy your next trip!


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