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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post

    - I can't go back beyond May 2010
    ... and you cannot see beyond (Theresa) May, 2013.


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    Aaah, so we mustn't learn from past cockups ?

    God forbid that that drip Millipede and his gang of dishonest incompetents should ever see power again in this country for the forseeable future. One near-bankruptcy, and the invasion of our country with parasites and terrorists is enough, thanks.


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    Very true.

    People also forget the terrible state this country was in when Maggie was brought in to sort it out.

    25% inflation and people like rail workers demanding 35% pay rises.

    I do disagree with the sale of council houses though, but no doubt they'd only be filled with asylum-seekers etc now, even if we still had them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post

    I do disagree with the sale of council houses though, but no doubt they'd only be filled with asylum-seekers etc now, even if we still had them.
    I think at the time Graham you were a homeowner ...you'd already scrimped and saved for a deposit etc so I know how you feel. ..I would too!

    I think most would of taken up the option to buy their council house if they were able to.

    If the Government had ploughed the money straight back into new housing stock then it might of been different.

    I remember when I bought ours, I did ask this question. ..what's happening to the money. ...We were definitely told it was being invested into creating more homes. ..such as human nature, I still would of bought it even if the proceeds were being spent on wine women and song


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    Well ... ... for what it's worth to you folks domiciled "south of the Border - down Yorkshire, Berkshire or Wiltshire way" (or where the heck ever) - the Scottish [SNP ~controlled] Government is all set to reverse the 1980s, Thatcherite 'Right to Buy'scheme up here in Bonnie Scotland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Up yours as well
    come on guys no need to stoop to the daily mail level

    nothing wrong with not agreeing
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    come on guys no need to stoop to the daily mail level

    nothing wrong with not agreeing
    Friendly banter Joe


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Friendly banter Joe
    nothing like talking a bit of



    i wonder if dedworth will be in a good mood today



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    Yes.....please use the appropriate smiley.



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    Oh, for God's sake you guys ... ... lighten up on the party politics ... !


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    The energy efficiency schemes have been running all over the country since 2003 (some, like reduced price loft insulation since the late 70s).

    I have been working on them throughout that time.

    ALL homeowners and tenants have been given the opportunity to insulate their houses properly either with a non-means tested grant of 50% for loft insulation and 70% for cavity wall insulation, or completely free for those on most benefits....also free for EVERYONE in 'normal'-sized properties, for a few years up until recently. Councils and housing associations have insulated all of their housing stock too, as well as running their own local schemes on top of the national ones.

    The main schemes have been funded by the energy companies.

    New grants are now available for previously 'hard to treat' properties (such as those with solid walls or having narrow cavities). There is also a big scheme running at present for free boiler replacement.

    Now over the years I've come across many people who still couldn't be bothered to insulate their homes properly...would rather spend the money on fags and booze, cars, etc, or just too idle to have a survey done and sign a couple of forms.

    Since an average loft loses around 25% of the total heat loss from a house, and the walls 35%, then I would suggest that the best thing most people can do is to go and check that they've done everything possible to keep the heat IN their house, and to have the actual heating system running efficiently....before they start bloody moaning !


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    First thing I did when I moved into my present house in January 2007. ...New heating system. ..loft re insulated and the cavity walls loaded.


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    Can't fault you mate.


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    There is plenty of coal in Britain there is no need to import it. You have privatisation on the brain. Do you like being held to ransom?. Look at royal mail? Most of the shares have gone abroad. It just shows how much you care about this country supporting the big sell offs. I agree with Milliband we should nationalise and make us self sufficient again. At the end of the day you will vote what party is best for you and I will do the same but it wont be the tories thats for sure.


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    At the time it was evidently cheaper to bring coal in from abroad. I've already said this in my previous post

    If privatisation is better for our country then I'm all for it

    We'll be getting a better service from Royal Mail when they turf out the dead wood and fill the positions with young energetic people who actually want to do the job and get on

    'Privatisation on the brain' , it's you going on about stitching up the big 6 and the Royal Mail sell off. ..I'm just going with the flow

    Nationalisation didn't work before. ..what makes you think it would work now. .I doubt you were old enough to see how it was in the bad old days. ..who do you think was paying for those extortionate pay rises. .The Government of course. ..It wasn't going to last. ..just like the ever increasing welfare bill. .It won't and it can't last. .that too, will end in tears


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    Im older than you think and you cant teach me anything, I remember the days in the 60s and 70s when people had jobs. Good jobs at that and the standard of living was better. I think you will find the tories have gone too far this time like I said they have no control of soaring prices Because it all comes from abroad. We own nothing, Get it?.
    Just answer me one question. Why are quite a few of us on here wanting to leave this country and go to a third world country?


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    We own nothing, Get it?.
    I suggest taking a look outside your box..or rather, Wolverhampton

    What Britain exports: the ultimate chart

    We've never had it so good

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    I remember the days in the 60s and 70s when people had jobs. Good jobs at that and the standard of living was better.
    Yes, I remember..Thanks to your Unions, getting grossly over paid in a nationalised industry (subsidised by the British Taxpayer ) for producing stuff nobody wanted.....Yeah, the general public are screaming for those day to come back

    Here's what happened to BT...similar to The Royal Mail setup

    gcse economics - tools of the trade: privatisation - case studies

    Case study of the telephone industry
    Scenario A
    Initially British Telecom was owned and controlled by the government it was the only supplier of telephone lines in the country. It had a monopoly.
    Scenario B
    The industry was privatised. BT was sold to private individuals and is now owned by shareholders as a public limited company. Also other firms were allowed to provide telephone lines for the public.
    ADVANTAGES OF PRIVATISATION
    DISADVANTAGES OF PRIVATISATION
    It created competition. This should help reduce prices
    BT still makes huge profits. These go to ‘fat cat’ directors and shareholders
    Firms have aimed to increase quality e.g. extra features on phones
    BT still has a monopoly in the market. It is difficult for other firms to get established
    The government doesn’t have to pay for BT therefore taxes should be lower
    A lot of people lost their jobs after privatisation as BT needed to become more efficient


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    Thee young uns...tha nos nowt.

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    I will ask you again gwapee. Why are quite a few of us on here wanting to leave this country and go to a third world country?. Maybe you will answer this time. Even your mate Ded can chip in if he likes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    I will ask you again gwapee. Why are quite a few of us on here wanting to leave this country and go to a third world country?. Maybe you will answer this time. Even your mate Ded can chip in if he likes.
    Sorry Andy. .im at work so, posts are here and there

    In answer to your question. ...perhaps poor employment...poor pay. .no prospects. Maybe unable to secure visas for loved ones.That's good enough reasons for some I guess. ....wouldn't be enough for me though.

    If you've lived in the same town all your life and never really tried it anywhere else I personally can't see the logic in going to a 3rd world where finding and creating gainful employment is virtually nil, especially if you are unwilling to motivate yourself to find it in this land of golden opportunity

    I wonder how many wouldn't go if they did have good paying jobs they enjoyed doing. ..not very many. ..


    Then you got the folks who retire out there. .nothing wrong in that. .drawing your pensions over there, all makes sense as long as you are well covered for all eventualities which won't be cheap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Sorry Andy. .im at work so, posts are here and there

    In answer to your question. ...perhaps poor employment...poor pay. .no prospects. Maybe unable to secure visas for loved ones.That's good enough reasons for some I guess. ....wouldn't be enough for me though.

    If you've lived in the same town all your life and never really tried it anywhere else I personally can't see the logic in going to a 3rd world where finding and creating gainful employment is virtually nil, especially if you are unwilling to motivate yourself to find it in this land of golden opportunity

    I wonder how many wouldn't go if they did have good paying jobs they enjoyed doing. ..not very many. ..


    Then you got the folks who retire out there. .nothing wrong in that. .drawing your pensions over there, all makes sense as long as you are well covered for all eventualities which won't be cheap.
    Do you drink at work gwapee? I am talking about people on here that want to retire there. All this rubbish your spouting out about brownouts surely that put would people off going. But it doesnt, The answer is its a better standard of living over there and the climate is better.. And cheaper prices. Not bad for a corrupt government. And all these brownouts. And by the way you must support it or be a hypocrite because your still going there.. And another thing if governments kept prices down there wouldnt be any need for strikes and high pay rises. You cant blame a working guy for wanting to earn a decent wage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Do you drink at work gwapee? I am talking about people on here that want to retire there. All this rubbish your spouting out about brownouts surely that put would people off going. But it doesnt, The answer is its a better standard of living over there and the climate is better.. And cheaper prices. Not bad for a corrupt government. And all these brownouts. And by the way you must support it or be a hypocrite because your still going there.. And another thing if governments kept prices down there wouldnt be any need for strikes and high pay rises. You cant blame a working guy for wanting to earn a decent wage.
    Excuse me but, I don't drink at work or outside work, I'm teetotal I'm not talking about other members motives, I'm just on about your's

    Perhaps the brownouts are a small price to pay for some just to get away from a previous life.

    It's a better standard of living if you have money..If you are potless here you are you can bet your bottom dollar you are going to be short of readies there....unless of course you have made provisions here like for example renting out your house

    Where do you get the cheaper prices from....you obviously haven't experienced paying any elecricity water and fuel bills.

    I go to The Philippines to holiday..like I've had holidays in most parts of the world before going to the Phils..that doesn't mean I support each of the Governments agendas

    No, you can't blame a guy wanting to earn a decent wage for his family. That, we can agree on, Andy


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    Too true Joe but then you cant expect people paying 40% tax to understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Too true Joe but then you cant expect people paying 40% tax to understand.
    no because they think everyone else is just the same as them, better off or they couldn't give a about anyone else
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    no because they think everyone else is just the same as them, better off or they couldn't give a about anyone else
    In my case that isn't true


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    In my case that isn't true


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Meaning


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    E.on blames energy reforms as it scraps pensioner tariff

    Tens of thousands of pensioners face higher gas and electricity bills this winter after an energy giant today announced plans to scrap a tariff aimed at the over 60s.

    Source:-
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