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    looks like i missed the

    you've posted some info but not backed it up with any links

    where is a link showing the council send information to the phils embassy

    where is a link showing you have to take the oath at the phils embassy within a time period
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyivy View Post
    I have to quickly say hello to all you guys on this forum as I just joined this second. I just 'found' you,...and I am so so glad I read this thread !!!! If I can be excused I will skip the intro and get right to the point of this topic.
    Firstly , I am in desperate need of this info about my wife travelling on her Filipino passport,..you see, she just got her UK citizenship 4 days ago, taking the oathe and receiving her certificate. Problem is , we have already booked our annual holiday to Cebu for a 3 month break , and we travel in the next 3 weeks ! My wife doesn't have time to apply for a UK passport, and as I read on another forum (from Mystica ) I was informed by her about her experiences. Now I dont want to dismiss her views,...but if what has been said on here is true,...well I'll be skipping around our living room if she doesn't need to travel all the way to London to the Phils embassy to re-take her oath AND ask them if she can use her old passport to travel out for our holidays ??!!..
    I had visions of us being stopped at the UK airport and refused travel once they had scanned her Filipino passport !!!. Hopefully the customs and immigration in Cebu will not challenge her either.
    Please folks,....dont givew upon this thread,..it is so interesting to me at this stage,...

    Jonny (new member)
    This post highlights the heartache what can be caused by giving out misleading information

    Put simply Johnny...Terpe is correct ...Please continue skipping around your living room

    For your excellent good timing, I've rewarded you with your first rep


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystica View Post
    Anata wa sore o rikai suru koto ga dekiru hazu!Tetsudō gijutsu-sha to ..... 20-nen no tame ni anata ga Yokohama ni motodzuite iru to shuchō shi, mada UKBA to renkei shita?


    Dont speak japanese here coz all of the member here is english! Anata namaiki dayooo...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    My Google translate struggled with that one
    Its b'coz nihongo contradicts english grammar


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    Quote Originally Posted by malditako View Post
    Its b'coz nihongo contradicts english grammar
    I'm learning much today


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    Every now and again there seems to be someone like this popping up. This post has really made my day and made me laugh to no end.
    @Terpe you seem to have a lot of patience and well done to you. Rep point on its way.

    @Mystica.You are the weakest link......Goodbye


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    Must admit - it was quite interesting - I will be certain to avoid ALL doubt and not book any travel with Rina during that month we do her naturalization and application for UK Passport


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    the walk..how about the housework
    Well said Mark a :xxgrinning--00xx3 :rep on the way!


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    I must confess when I saw that name on a thread the other day I did think here we go fruit loop has arrived.
    18 years married to a Brit Lucky Fella


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    Hey! I tried to say it in Japanese so he won't be exposed to the other members that I am criticising him as he's an idiot! but apparently it's just a claim he's been in Japan that long when he isn't!


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishman12 View Post
    Hey! I tried to say it in Japanese so he won't be exposed to the other members that I am criticising him as he's an idiot! but apparently it's just a claim he's been in Japan that long when he isn't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    sorry i should have put quote -thats what she said on other website


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishman12 View Post
    sorry i should have put quote -thats what she said on other website
    Thank's, we understand now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishman12 View Post
    sorry i should have put quote -thats what she said on other website
    what makes her think people would expose their true identity in a public forum


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishman12 View Post
    Hey! I tried to say it in Japanese so he won't be exposed to the other members that I am criticising him as he's an idiot! but apparently it's just a claim he's been in Japan that long when he isn't!
    Just a thought Irishman ...You may think it a good idea to delete that post and some how arrange it that it obviously came from Mystica..........these posts remain here for years

    Very disappointing she said such a thing..

    Thank you for taking the trouble to translate My Google trans still couldn't fathom it out even when I put in Japanese

    BTW..I've sent you a rep for your troubles :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by malditako View Post
    what makes her think people would expose their true identity in a public forum
    Well there is always that aspect. We should all take some precautions.
    My user name is just that....a user name.....most folks here know my real name is Peter
    rather than Terpe.
    Some have met both me and my wife in person. I actually do exist.


    All the rest of my profile is accurate and true.
    Most of the regulars here know my story...............no problems for me to outine again though.

    It's always going to be guessing game in reviewing someones forum profile against a few picked up hints.

    I was lucky to have had a job which was also my hobby and passion. Railways...trains.

    I spent over 30 years in various positions travelling the world supporting and consulting Railway companies in specialised areas of railway engineering.
    During that period I got based in Japan. Much easier, quicker and cheaper to be based there to support our interests in China and Asia.

    It was really by chance that during my time in Japan I happened to get introduced to the lady who became my wife. She was also at that time living in Japan and running her business in jazz themed restaurant.
    That was our life for many years until we decided to come to England to take care of my parents who were suffering various health problems.
    We came to England 8th November 2002 and have been here since. (unfortunately)
    Even back then we experienced a tough time with immigration.
    Neither of us had a job although we did have savings and we did have rented accommodation set up.

    I though it would be easy for me to find a job.....but was soon proved wrong on that one.
    Seemed even then I was either just too old or too picky. I really wanted an 'ethical' job.
    Some time in January 2003 I managed to secure a 6 month contract with the Inland Revenue. After that intial contract I was offered full time employment with various roles involved with Employer Tax regimes and later with other interesting aspects. Eventually the then named Border and Immigration Agency was merged with HMRC to become UKBA.

    Simple story and nothing special.
    Except that by some strange quirk of fate two people from different sides of the planet meet up by chance in yet another country and end up spending their lives together.

    Like a few others here, our plan is to relocate to Philippines very very soon and enjoy a wonderful life together in our autumn and sunset years....

    Can't wait for that.


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    It's a small world Terpe,... I'm one of the real life 'railway children',..seriously ! I lived out in the hills at a railway junction way back in 1960-67,..only means of transport was the trains,...going to school, going into town and visits from the doctor ! The television crew came to us and made a documentary about my family in 1965 !
    My father wrote a small book about his memories of his life working on the railway, all the proceeds were given to the local charity that were trying to restore the line around where he spent all his working days. It was written very formally from all his diaries he used to keep. Some good old-fashioned photo's of some old steam and diesel engines.I will send you a PM with a link for it if you wish ?

    Jonny


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyivy View Post
    ....Some good old-fashioned photo's of some old steam and diesel engines.I will send you a PM with a link for it if you wish ?

    Jonny
    That would be most welcome and very kind. Sadly Jonny, just now you not able to access PM
    I'll contact you with my e-mail address.

    We used to have a railway line and station in our village way back when. Like you it was the pretty much the only way to get to the nearest towns.
    The station has gone and most of the line taken up. It's now a cycle track and nature walk..very nice too. Some of the track remains and form part of a local Steam Railway system.

    I'll be in touch with you via e-mail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyivy View Post
    It's a small world Terpe,... I'm one of the real life 'railway children',..seriously ! I lived out in the hills at a railway junction way back in 1960-67,..only means of transport was the trains,...going to school, going into town and visits from the doctor ! The television crew came to us and made a documentary about my family in 1965 !
    My father wrote a small book about his memories of his life working on the railway, all the proceeds were given to the local charity that were trying to restore the line around where he spent all his working days. It was written very formally from all his diaries he used to keep. Some good old-fashioned photo's of some old steam and diesel engines.I will send you a PM with a link for it if you wish ?

    Jonny
    Just a thought Jonny

    You could start a blog here on this forum ....Go to the 'forum' page and look at the menu...I'm sure many of us would be interested in what you say and looking at your old pics ....It saves taking the threads off topic


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Just a thought Irishman...You may think it a good idea to delete that post and some how arrange it that it obviously camr frm Mystica..........these posts remain here for years

    Very disappointing she said such a thing..

    Thank you for taking the trouble to translate My Google trans still couldn't fathom it out even when I put in Japanese

    BTW..I've sent you a rep for your troubles :-)
    i didnt translate -she wrote it in english ,
    one of my relative spent some time in japan and is also studying japanese but i guess there are different types just like in phils.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Well there is always that aspect. We should all take some precautions.
    My user name is just that....a user name.....most folks here know my real name is Peter
    rather than Terpe.
    Some have met both me and my wife in person. I actually do exist.


    All the rest of my profile is accurate and true.
    Most of the regulars here know my story...............no problems for me to outine again though.

    It's always going to be guessing game in reviewing someones forum profile against a few picked up hints.

    I was lucky to have had a job which was also my hobby and passion. Railways...trains.

    I spent over 30 years in various positions travelling the world supporting and consulting Railway companies in specialised areas of railway engineering.
    During that period I got based in Japan. Much easier, quicker and cheaper to be based there to support our interests in China and Asia.

    It was really by chance that during my time in Japan I happened to get introduced to the lady who became my wife. She was also at that time living in Japan and running her business in jazz themed restaurant.
    That was our life for many years until we decided to come to England to take care of my parents who were suffering various health problems.
    We came to England 8th November 2002 and have been here since. (unfortunately)
    Even back then we experienced a tough time with immigration.
    Neither of us had a job although we did have savings and we did have rented accommodation set up.

    I though it would be easy for me to find a job.....but was soon proved wrong on that one.
    Seemed even then I was either just too old or too picky. I really wanted an 'ethical' job.
    Some time in January 2003 I managed to secure a 6 month contract with the Inland Revenue. After that intial contract I was offered full time employment with various roles involved with Employer Tax regimes and later with other interesting aspects. Eventually the then named Border and Immigration Agency was merged with HMRC to become UKBA.

    Simple story and nothing special.
    Except that by some strange quirk of fate two people from different sides of the planet meet up by chance in yet another country and end up spending their lives together.

    Like a few others here, our plan is to relocate to Philippines very very soon and enjoy a wonderful life together in our autumn and sunset years....

    Can't wait for that.
    Thanks for sharing that info about you...but like i have said i would never expect someone to give too much info about themselves online or never would judge anybody if they dont want to be identified as well...as for others privacy matter and so it does to me. Although i dont share any info about me here some member if not most knows me personally


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystica View Post
    It's just an experience! But the feeling of being questioned for not having a right travel document especially in the Middle East is terrible!
    Can you clarify. Are you of Filipino origin, and looking? Traveling to Saudi on a brand new, shiney, no stamps, British Passport?

    If so then they may have suspected other things such as it being invalid 'because you're obviously not British'. They are a law unto themselves out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor View Post
    Can you clarify. Are you of Filipino origin, and looking? Traveling to Saudi on a brand new, shiney, no stamps, British Passport?

    If so then they may have suspected other things such as it being invalid 'because you're obviously not British'. They are a law unto themselves out there.
    No Trefor. She was travelling on a Philippines passport.
    Apparently she was still waiting for her British Passport at that time.
    Just prior to travelling she had become a naturalised British Citizen and she said that the UKBA (or other authority) had immediately shared that information to Philippine Embassy and that immediately following that the Philippine Embassy had somehow revoked/cancelled her Philippine passport without her knowledge leading to the Saudi immigration refusing entry as her passport was invalid.

    The objective of the many questions was to establish the root cause as it seemed unlikely that such information would be shared and shared so quickly.

    Many folks have become naturalised British Citizens but continued to travel on their Philippine passports without any issue.
    The key factor being, is there a sharing of information about becoming a British Citizen from UK authorities to other foreign Embassies/authorities. Or is it incumbent solely on the individual to declare such changes as otherwise it remains unknown.

    It appears from the practical experience of many that there is no automatic secret sharing of such information.
    But according to Mystica there is indeed a sharing of such information as it subsequently happened in her experience as outlined here in this thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post

    It appears from the practical experience of many that there is no automatic secret sharing of such information.
    But according to Mystica there is indeed a sharing of such information as it subsequently happened in her experience as outlined here in this thread.
    For those living within the M25 this is roughly translated to mean she was talking bocks


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    For those living within the M25 this is roughly translated to mean she was talking bocks
    Well I'd have to agree Marco........and certainly anecdotal evidence as well as other regulatory requirements support that. But I always like to understand the facts so I already asked the Home Office.......be interesting to see if they want to divulge anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    No Trefor. She was travelling on a Philippines passport.
    Apparently she was still waiting for her British Passport at that time.
    Just prior to travelling she had become a naturalised British Citizen and she said that the UKBA (or other authority) had immediately shared that information to Philippine Embassy and that immediately following that the Philippine Embassy had somehow revoked/cancelled her Philippine passport without her knowledge leading to the Saudi immigration refusing entry as her passport was invalid.

    The objective of the many questions was to establish the root cause as it seemed unlikely that such information would be shared and shared so quickly.

    Many folks have become naturalised British Citizens but continued to travel on their Philippine passports without any issue.
    The key factor being, is there a sharing of information about becoming a British Citizen from UK authorities to other foreign Embassies/authorities. Or is it incumbent solely on the individual to declare such changes as otherwise it remains unknown.

    It appears from the practical experience of many that there is no automatic secret sharing of such information.
    But according to Mystica there is indeed a sharing of such information as it subsequently happened in her experience as outlined here in this thread.
    and more importantly she was able to leave the UK on this cancelled passport
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    and more importantly she was able to leave the UK on this cancelled passport
    ......and re-enter UK


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    ......and re-enter UK
    double
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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