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    China Increases Typhoon Aid to Philippines

    China is increasing the amount of its relief aid to the typhoon-hit Philippines, days after it offered an initial donation much smaller than that of other global powers.



    read more here .. http://www.voanews.com/content/china...s/1790035.html
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    ... well done, China!


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    Let's not think that China's dispute with Philippines doesn't count...........it does.
    That's a fact of life.
    China is a neighbour, it's also the second largest economy on the planet.

    But anyway, every help is a big help and I and my family am glad for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Let's not think that China's dispute with Philippines doesn't count...........it does.
    That's a fact of life.
    China is a neighbour, it's also the second largest economy on the planet.

    But anyway, every help is a big help and I and my family am glad for that.
    ''China is actually still a poor country. Its per capita income finally topped $9,000 last year, which ranks China about 90th in the world, depending on the exact measure.

    Nearly 130 million of its people live on less than $1.80 per day. With a renewed sense of urgency to tackle the country's many economic reform challenges, China has far too many pressing needs at home to be cutting big checks abroad.''


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    ''China is actually still a poor country. Its per capita income finally topped $9,000 last year, which ranks China about 90th in the world, depending on the exact measure.

    Nearly 130 million of its people live on less than $1.80 per day. With a renewed sense of urgency to tackle the country's many economic reform challenges, China has far too many pressing needs at home to be cutting big checks abroad.''


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    While China and the United States both have among the greatest number of millionaire households, they have among the highest rates of income inequality, according to the United Nations. Millionaire households, or households with $1 million or more in total AuM (assets under management), represented just 0.9% of all households in 2010. These households own 39% of the total wealth, however. This is an increase from 37% in 2009. As wealth increases, the amount that is owned by millionaires increases dramatically.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...aires/2811571/
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    Well, if China can afford so many grandiose projects...buying up half the world's resources of metal, etc....


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Well, if China can afford so many grandiose projects...buying up half the world's resources of metal, etc....
    Yes, but can they afford it while 130 million of it's citizens suffer in silence


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Yes, but can they afford it while 130 million of it's citizens suffer in silence
    gWaPito your sounding like a caring socialist
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    Sounds more like proof that socialism doesn't work


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Sounds more like proof that socialism doesn't work
    Cheers Simon


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Cheers Simon
    Nearly half of all children in Britain's most deprived urban areas are living below the poverty line, new report reveals

    it shows capitalism doesn't work from the newspaper of the year


    One in five British children live below the poverty line with the number rising to nearly half in the most deprived areas of Manchester, according to research released today.

    The Campaign to End Child Poverty published figures today showing that 20.2 per cent of British children are classified as below the poverty line, before housing costs.

    In eight areas of large cities, more than four out of every 10 children lived in poverty in 2012, the research showed.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-reveals.html
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    From the same article:-
    But that is a decrease on the 19 parliamentary constituencies that had 40 per cent of children living in poverty in 2011.
    The poorest constituency for children was Manchester Central, with nearly half (47 per cent) of children living in poverty.
    More than four in 10 children were living in poverty in Belfast West (43 per cent), Glasgow North East (43 per cent), Ladywood, Birmingham (42 per cent), Liverpool Riverside (42 per cent), and Middlesbrough (40 per cent).


    So things are improving


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    that article i posted was from the mail , you have to go back to feb to find a recent article about child poverty on there , i wonder why


    The Government has a statutory requirement, enshrined in the Child Poverty Act 2010 , to end child poverty by 2020. However, it is predicated that by 2020/21 another 1 million children will be pushed into poverty as a result of the Coalition Government’s policies.

    http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_...tics_facts.htm
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    Joe, thank you That link has giving me the biggest laugh I've had in ages

    From the article :-


    How does poverty affect families?
    24% of children in the poorest fifth of households are in families who can’t afford to keep their house warm, compared to just 1% in the richest fifth.
    Nearly half of all children in the poorest fifth of households are in families who can’t afford to replace broken electrical goods, compared with just 3% of children in the richest households.
    62% of children in the poorest fifth of households have parents who would like to, but cannot afford to take their children for a holiday away from home for one week a year. This only applies to 6% of children in the richest fifth.

    So, 1% of the richest families can't afford to keep their homes warm, 3% can't afford to replace electrical goods and 6% can't afford a holiday


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    How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

    Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

    Having to roll your own smokes ?

    Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

    Can only afford cheaper beers ?

    Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

    Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

    It's their kids I feel sorry for.

    I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

    Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

    Having to roll your own smokes ?

    Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

    Can only afford cheaper beers ?

    Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

    Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

    It's their kids I feel sorry for.

    I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.
    Spot on Graham. I would call having to live on £1.70 a day poverty..just like the 130 million folks in China and 40% of the Philippine population That was before the recent earthquake and tyhoon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Spot on Graham. I would call having to live on £1.70 a day poverty..just like the 130 million folks in China and 40% of the Philippine population That was before the resent earthquake and tyhoon.
    tell me gWaPito, as you do your weekly shop, do you spend more than £11.90 on food a week (£1.70*7), oh and don't forget to take off your rent, poll tax, gas, water, electricity, everyone has to pay these

    now tell me what is the minimum you need a day to survive, and then what figure you would use to say your living in poverty. i wait your answers
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    tell me gWaPito, as you do your weekly shop, do you spend more than £11.90 on food a week (£1.70*7), oh and don't forget to take off your rent, poll tax, gas, water, electricity, everyone has to pay these

    now tell me what is the minimum you need a day to survive, and then what figure you would use to say your living in poverty. i wait your answers
    People on most benefits DON'T have to pay rent or council tax.

    Food has never been cheaper in this country...and HEALTHY food more easily available year-round.

    Energy bills are high (but so are comfort levels in homes).

    ANYBODY who is classed as in 'fuel poverty' (ie spending more than 10% of their income on fuel) is entitled to receive free home insulation, and in many cases a brand new replacement boiler too.

    There are two lots of heating subsidies being paid by the govt. this winter for those on Pension Credit, as well as the elderly.

    Then we have the various additional freebies for those on most benefits or on OAP...ie free dental treatment, glasses, prescriptions etc.

    How anyone can compare our mollycoddled existence to REAL poverty in countries like the Philippines is just beyond me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    People on most benefits DON'T have to pay rent or council tax.

    Food has never been cheaper in this country...and HEALTHY food more easily available year-round.

    Energy bills are high (but so are comfort levels in homes).

    ANYBODY who is classed as in 'fuel poverty' (ie spending more than 10% of their income on fuel) is entitled to receive free home insulation, and in many cases a brand new replacement boiler too.

    There are two lots of heating subsidies being paid by the govt. this winter for those on on Pension Credit, as well as the elderly.

    Then we have the various additional freebies for those on most benefits or on OAP...ie free dental treatment, glasses, prescriptions etc.

    How anyone can compare our mollycoddled existence to REAL poverty in countries like the Philippines is just beyond me.
    give me a figure graham, tell me what you think the minimum monthly amount would be that anything less you would then class as living in poverty for

    someone on benefits
    someone working
    a married couple both working with 2 kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post

    Then we have the various additional freebies for those on most benefits or on OAP ...ie free dental treatment, glasses, prescriptions etc.
    Yes ... OAPs receive free prescriptions, Graham. But neither dental treatment NOR glasses are free to the over 65s here, unfortunately.


    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    How anyone can compare our mollycoddled existence to REAL poverty in countries like the Philippines is just beyond me.
    ...................... 's true, !


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

    Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

    Having to roll your own smokes ?

    Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

    Can only afford cheaper beers ?

    Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

    Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

    It's their kids I feel sorry for.

    I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.
    so if there is no poverty in the UK, why is there a Child Poverty Act 2010

    the bill received cross party support
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

    Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

    Having to roll your own smokes ?

    Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

    Can only afford cheaper beers ?

    Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

    Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

    It's their kids I feel sorry for.

    I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.
    Well said Graham!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Well said Graham!
    tell me Michael and Graham what monthly figure would you define as poverty ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    tell me Michael and Graham what monthly figure would you define as poverty ?
    Poverty is a 'condition' a 'state of being'. Figures are meaningless, as they are so variable and circumstances-dependent.

    You've either got sufficient for your basic needs (not bloody Sky TV, fags and booze !) or not.

    There is a system set up in this country to help prevent people from being poor, to the extent they are suffering.

    Of course you can take a horse to water...


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Poverty is a 'condition' a 'state of being'. Figures are meaningless, as they are so variable and circumstances-dependent.

    You've either got sufficient for your basic needs (not bloody Sky TV, fags and booze !) or not.

    There is a system set up in this country to help prevent people from being poor, to the extent they are suffering.

    Of course you can take a horse to water...
    you work graham, you must have a minimum figure you need to survive without cigs, beer, sky etc, a figure you need, at the end of the month you would have £0 left or your were getting in debt you've never thought about it ?
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    Try PERSUADING people to have FREE insulation and FREE new boilers.

    I do it nearly every day of the week, and have been doing so for over 30 years.

    You wouldn't believe the stupidity, apathy and bone-idleness I encounter.


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    Joe, I will NOT be giving you any meaningless figures ...sorry.

    It's a bone I won't be fighting over.


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