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    Do you have to be a Union member to comment on Unions
    Do you have to be a member of a political party to comment on their policies


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post

    If and when Labour get in I'm sure we will all be so much worse off, and a few on here wont be defending them as vigorously methinks
    and were all doing great under the Tories , oh hang on those with the 'broadest shoulders' are with their 10% tax cut

    tell me les under blair how many years of economic growth was there ? i wait your answer oh and what was it under thatcher
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    Thank goodness I don't have to go to church to comment on religion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Which we're all paying for now. How is MG Rover doing ?
    tell me how many major British car manufacturers are there left Graham ? and did they all go bust under a labour gov ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Yes, I was branch secretary of the CPSA (as it was called then) when I worked for the Dept of Employment.
    and did you think the union was shafting anyone ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    tell me how many major British car manufacturers are there left Graham ? and did they all go bust under a labour gov ?
    They went bust because the British public (and govt depts) bought foreign cars.

    I bought one of the last MGs made... plus my British-made TVRs for the weekend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    and did you think the union was shafting anyone ?
    That particular union ?

    I have no idea, as I wasn't privy to what went on amongst the higher echelons of its management.


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    Whatever any of you say, I'll still vote Tory!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Whatever any of you say, I'll still vote Tory!
    Too right Michael. ..at least we know who our betters are. We know who to trust with our hard earned


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    did the unions shaft you gWaPito
    les or Graham have you ever been a union member ???
    I do remember the inconvenience of missing at episode or 2 of ''family at war'' during the power cut era. ...mother had to get out grans paraffin stove. ..We'd then be treated by dad on the history of that stove. ....it was a time we came together as a family. ..just like the Walton's

    Life was a bit simpler back then. All parents had to worry about was putting food on the table.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Too right Michael. ..at least we know who are betters are. We know who to trust with our hard earned
    gWaPito you really are taking the , you owe it to your union for getting you your pay and conditions not the gov
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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    .just like the Walton's
    and just like the Waltons were waiting for this recession to end

    oh when were those darks days, it must have under the last labour gov gWaPito, maybe i was in the phils and missed those dark days
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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    Whatever the unions did in the past is in the past
    Is it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    The bottom line today is normal working people need the unions now more than ever


    Try asking the folks up in Grangemouth, they were that close to getting their P45's for Christmas. They wish they'd never heard of the Unite union


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Try asking the folks up in Grangemouth, they were that close to getting their P45's for Christmas. They wish they'd never heard of the Unite union
    have you any evidence of this dedworth or are you just guessing, like you did with the £75wk rent
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    les or Graham have you ever been a union member
    No, worked for privately owned companies, rose up the Ranks and worked hard and did well.

    Eventually 20 years ago decided to work for myself with no capital hardly and became taxi driver, self employed and realised if i wanted things in life i had to do it myself, worked many Sat nights while my mates were enjoying themselves.
    enables me to live half decent lifestyle though, but if i want anything, any treat I go out there work extra hours and earn it


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Too right Michael. ..at least we know who our betters are. We know who to trust with our hard earned
    ... Correction, Mark! Politicians, in general, may well be "better~off" (financially) than your average worker. But that most certainly does NOT make them better people in a moral sense - regardless of the party they purport to represent!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    I do remember the inconvenience of missing at episode or 2 of ''family at war'' during the power cut era. ...mother had to get out grans paraffin stove. ..We'd then be treated by dad on the history of that stove. ....it was a time we came together as a family. ..just like the Walton's

    Life was a bit simpler back then. All parents had to worry about was putting food on the table.
    TABLE ?

    You were lucky.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    and just like the Waltons were waiting for this recession to end

    oh when were those darks days, it must have under the last labour gov gWaPito, maybe i was in the phils and missed those dark days
    The 70s


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... Correction, Mark! Politicians, in general, may well be "better~off" (financially) than your average worker. But that most certainly does NOT make them better people in a moral sense - regardless of the party they purport to represent!
    I know Arthur I was just getting up Joe's nose It's what I do

    You are right about the moral sense...it was unthinkable for normal folks back then to be married and divorced multiple times with all the emotional upheaval what comes with it.

    Like I said, my parents had it easy...when times were tough they knew they had each other, no matter what. It's something I took for granted later in my life..........women (the ones I've come across of late) aren't made like that any more


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    TABLE ?

    You were lucky.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Too right Michael. ..at least we know who our betters are. We know who to trust with our hard earned
    I would not trust any of them !

    I thought you said before that you did not suck up to the Tories

    The only one who talks any sense these days is Farage


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Yes living in the gutter while texting each other on their Samsungs
    Unions stuffed you on your rights, holding the rest of the country to Ransom - blame your Mr Scargill
    The economy is improving so dont know how you dispute that
    A lot of debt as raised on 5 live the other day is due to people living beyond their means - credit card frenzy
    you seem to want a nanny state where we magic up the money (labour just borrow it and we have to pay tons of interest)
    Many people happily bought their council houses and eventually sold them and made a nice little earner, remember people have a choice - you are blaming the Tories for giving people a choice.
    What do you feel about the 2 wars labour dragged us into?
    I get sick of people whinging wanting the government to do everything for you, get sick of spongers and benefit claimants taking the piss.
    Fuel like everything always goes up,l uckily the most vulnerable get winter fuel allowance.

    But I do disagree with the Bedroom tax - that's a cock up
    If and when Labour get in I'm sure we will all be so much worse off, and a few on here wont be defending them as vigorously methinks
    I think you will find that those same scroungers were getting their benefits under the Tory government also

    I am no great Labour supporter either I dislike both these 2 main parties

    I notice that none of you pro Tory lot seem to want to defend our high fuel costs now, a situation totally down to your beloved Thatcher
    "not having a leg to stand on" springs to mind............


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    The 70s
    70's what 40+yrs ago no power cuts under Blair and brown thou you must have fond memories of the good old days gWaPito

    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    I know Arthur I was just getting up Joe's nose It's what I do
    i know your a secret labour supporter and a Union man
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    I think you will find that those same scroungers were getting their benefits under the Tory government also
    Of course we had people on benefits under the Tories, but it was labour who made it so much easier for the non-deserving Jeremy kyle culture they helped to create, they created a record number of allowances that totally bamboozled the system, but the shirkers of this world had plenty of time to work out and abuse.

    I notice that none of you pro Tory lot seem to want to defend our high fuel costs now, a situation totally down to your beloved Thatcher
    "not having a leg to stand on" springs to mind............
    So do you think gas and electric prices would have remained the same after all these years? We are an island and will always find things more expensive as we don't have enough natural resources.
    Think you will find that many, many people who are 'struggling' still manage to power up their 40 plasma to watch x-factor
    As the decades go by Fuel will be a luxury item as it is running out, one day it will outstrip Gold in terms of value.


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    les, thatcher played her part in creating the kyle culture with record levels of unemployment, no hope for most school leavers, your old enough to remember the early 80's with 10,000s of people a week losing their jobs, remember Trev McDonald closing the news with the daily and weekly job losses

    yes the good old days of thatcher
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    She was one of the best leaders we ever had,you will never make me think otherwise Joe,she would even beat millipiede in a fight i bet


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    Ah, thread still going strong eh ?

    I'm just catching up after ministering freebies to the poor and the idle again today.

    Back to back private rented terraced houses...washing hanging across the street.

    One family's only source of heating was the gas cooker. Encountered many heavy smokers, Bull terriors, shellsuits, security grills on windows and front doors, and sticky floors.

    As Bernard Manning said about the 'ethnic' restaurant next door to him...

    "Well, at least it keeps the flies out of my house".


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Ah, thread still going strong eh ?

    I'm just catching up after ministering freebies to the poor and the idle again today.

    Back to back private rented terraced houses...washing hanging across the street.

    One family's only source of heating was the gas cooker. Encountered many heavy smokers, Bull terriors, shellsuits, security grills on windows and front doors, and sticky floors.

    As Bernard Manning said about the 'ethnic' restaurant next door to him...

    "Well, at least it keeps the flies out of my house".
    Labour voters obviously


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    I was working one side of the street, while the debt collector was working the other side.



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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Ah, thread still going strong eh ?

    I'm just catching up after ministering freebies to the poor and the idle again today.

    Back to back private rented terraced houses...washing hanging across the street.

    One family's only source of heating was the gas cooker. Encountered many heavy smokers, Bull terriors, shellsuits, security grills on windows and front doors, and sticky floors.

    As Bernard Manning said about the 'ethnic' restaurant next door to him...

    "Well, at least it keeps the flies out of my house".
    It's like a separate race of people at times,they don't want to work a lot of em,encouraged by limitless labour benefit system,these guys are never going to want to go to work


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