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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    In my experience, you dont get the same quailty as private. When was the last time you had treatment for whitening?
    quality i've got a couple of crowns that i had done well over 20yrs ago on the NHS

    whitening?
    isn't that soap you get in the phils gWaPito i'm from Salford and not that vain

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    You must have a better dentist than what I had.
    I remember my NHS dentist wasn't keen on 'wasting' pain killing injections.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    You must have a better dentist than what I used to have.
    I remember my NHS dentist was keen on 'wasting' pain killing injections.


    When i was a teenager my NHS dentist filled as many teeth as possible. Years later i found out there was nothing wrong with my teeth. Greed


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Sounds right up my street that Michael You dont always have to go the whole hog to get the best experience
    Naughty boy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post


    When i was a teenager my NHS dentist filled as many teeth as possible. Years later i found out there was nothing wrong with my teeth. Greed
    i think that might also be true for me when i was a lot younger

    I'm sure there are many private dentists who carry out unnecessary work but charge you a lot more than an NHS dentist
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i think that might also be true for me when i was alot younger

    I'm sure there are many private dentists who carry out unnecessary work but charge you a lot more than an NHS dentist
    In December just gone...Examination £36. Scale and polish £53, X-rays x 4 £40, Filling £122.50, Root filling £400, Crown replacement £600. Admittingly I hadn't been to my dentist for 2 years, I didn't expect all that although, the crown was expected. That's the reason I went there in the first place


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i think that might also be true for me when i was alot younger

    I'm sure there are many private dentists who carry out unnecessary work but charge you a lot more than a NHS dentist

    There needs to be more checks and scrutiny of NHS Dentists :-


    How Birmingham dentist fleeced NHS of £1.4m

    Scam artist Joyce Trail is currently serving a seven-year prison sentence after being found guilty of fraud - and she has now been struck off the register by the General Dental Council.

    The GDC's Professional Conduct Committee heard that between April 2006 and March 2009, she submitted a staggering 7,141 fraudulent claims for payment to the NHS.

    These included:

    Pain treatment for patients she had not treated
    Fitting dentures to people who did not need them
    Fitting dentures to people who were not entitled to have their treatment paid for by the NHS
    Provision of dentures to people who, it turned out, were dead

    In total, £1,376,423 was paid to Trail that she was not entitled to.

    http://www.itv.com/news/central/stor...st-struck-off/


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    Fleecing amongst dentists must be a common trait


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    i hate going to the dentist, anyone can come and hold my hand anytime, its from the school days when it was a production line, and the gas they gave you then, then waking up with a mouthful of cotton wool, bad days


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    i hate going to the dentist, anyone can come and hold my hand anytime, its from the school days when it was a production line, and the gas they gave you then, then waking up with a mouthful of cotton wool, bad days
    That's why we went private. I remember a boy dying in the chair with too much gas. I had the same dentist. He was never struck off
    I had a fear of not waking up...I had nightmares the night before I had to see him, I remember being sick as well. At least he gave me the insentive to look after my teeth


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    In December just gone...Examination £36. Scale and polish £53, X-rays x 4 £40, Filling £122.50, Root filling £400, Crown replacement £600. Admittedly I hadn't been to my dentist for 2 years, I didn't expect all that although, the crown was expected. That's the reason I went there in the first place
    i had not been to the dentist for about 2yrs too, i had done near enough the same as you, and like i said it cost me £214, i would never go private,

    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    That's why we went private. I remember a boy dying in the chair with too much gas. I had the same dentist. He was never struck off

    I had a fear of not waking up...I had nightmares the night before I had to see him, I remember being sick as well. At least he gave me the incentive to look after my teeth
    gas, you must be talking about 30yrs go , always use to make me sick

    these days they can put a numbing gel on your gum so you shouldn't feel much
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    Ems says wait till we go to the phils to get my teeth sorted but lets see,


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Ems says wait till we go to the phils to get my teeth sorted but lets see,
    Will you have any left in another 5 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i had not been to the dentist for about 2yrs too, i had done near enough the same as you, and like i said it cost me £214, i would never go private,



    gas, you must be talking about 30yrs ago , always use to make me sick

    these days they can put a numbing gel on your gum so you shouldn't feel much
    I'm talking about when I was in junior school in the 60s I was sick with fear. Fear of dying in the chair. Folks didn't complain as much in those days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Ems says wait till we go to the phils to get my teeth sorted but lets see,
    I wouldnt delay putting off dental problems Its been proven that non-action and delay will and can cause ill health throughout the body, even leading to premature death.

    http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/f...de-gum-disease


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    In December just gone...Examination £36. Scale and polish £53, X-rays x 4 £40, Filling £122.50, Root filling £400, Crown replacement £600. Admittedly I hadn't been to my dentist for 2 years, I didn't expect all that although, the crown was expected. That's the reason I went there in the first place
    blimey mark you could have got all that done in the philippines had a holiday too and still come back with change lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger31 View Post
    blimey mark you could have got all that done in the philippines had a holiday too and still come back with change lol
    Too damned right you could !


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    In December just gone...Examination £36. Scale and polish £53, X-rays x 4 £40, Filling £122.50, Root filling £400, Crown replacement £600. Admittingly I hadn't been to my dentist for 2 years, I didn't expect all that although, the crown was expected. That's the reason I went there in the first place
    I'm with Denplan and pay a twenty odd quid monthly premium - I last had unwanted, unexpected bills like this 17 years ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    Will you have any left in another 5 years
    i hope so, i can always put them in my pocket to keep safe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    I'm with Denplan and pay a twenty odd quid monthly premium - I last had unwanted, unexpected bills like this 17 years ago.
    Yep, me too. ..in fact it was longer. We took out Denplan back in the early 90s when we first went private.

    I only cancelled it 2 years ago. .I was trying to reduce my outgoings I had a big spender sat at home


    I was paying £21 pm. Over the 2 years all that work I've just had done would of set me back £500 ...pig sick or what! !!.


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    A choker Gwap


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    my female dentsit quit after having a baby, they replaced her with another female dentist young and stunning

    £500, what was you having done, i just had an xray, crown fitted, a filling and scale and polish for £214 on the nhs
    I had a Maryland crown done 2 years ago price was £550 but even though an NHS dentist they wouldn't cover that, so as my dentist also done private work it was the only way


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    A choker Gwap
    Yeah well get this, that isn't the worst of it. I need an implant as well..The base where the crown sat is shot...that's gonna set me back a further £2300. ......2013 wasn't a particularly good year. I'm well choked up I can't believe it


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Yeah well get this, that isn't the worst of it. I need an implant as well..The base where the crown sat is shot...that's gonna set me back a further £2300. ......2013 wasn't a particularly good year. I'm well choked up I can't believe it
    Sounds like a dental holiday to the Philippines is called for


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    Agree.

    I had a set of seven teeth made for the ex, early on in our relationship. It cost peanuts compared to here, and the work was all carried out very professionally.

    (I didn't have the heart to ask for them back after we split).


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Agree.

    I had a set of seven teeth made for the ex, early on in our relationship. It cost peanuts compared to here, and the work was all carried out very professionally.

    (I didn't have the heart to ask for them back after we split).




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    Quote Originally Posted by marksroomspain View Post
    I had a Maryland crown done 2 years ago price was £550 but even though an NHS dentist they wouldn't cover that, so as my dentist also done private work it was the only way
    Is that the Maryland cookie version Mark ?

    They've got us over a barrel. I've got the funds to go out there now. .even work have said if I want to take a month's vacation now I can ..but, I don't wanna miss not having my boys each week. .. Can't believe it.
    I suppose the treatment and savings will justify it. ...I'll have to sleep on this for a week. ....you lot putting ideas in my head!!


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    Just had a check up with my man - top fella he runs his practice with his dentist wife and one of their kids is at Dental School. They've not taken on new NHS patients for a long while. I've been with him about 20 years when he split away from the outfit he was working for. A very wealthy family.


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    Just over 2/5 of Britain’s 40,000 dentists are female, although 9/10 of the 60,000 dental care professionals - like hygienists and nurses - are female.


    They must all be registered with the General Dental Council ( GDC ) to work in the UK. The GDC is independent of the Government and NHS, and its role is to protect dental patients. Of course each dental practice has its own complaint procedure, and if you’re still unhappy, further help is available - the buck stops with the GDC.



    There are probably a similar number of dentists in the Philippines ( World Health Organization estimate ) but I’m unaware of the proportions of females : males. They are regulated and registered with the Philippine Professional Regulation Commission and are members of the Philippine Dental Association. The Philippines does seem to have a good reputation for quality dental care at much lower cost than that in the UK.


    Here in the UK it may indeed be hard to find NHS dental services. Before ANY dental professional carries out work, in UK or Philippines, they should take a full medical history and after examining your mouth, give you a treatment plan and estimate of how much any work will cost, in writing. Especially for visiting " dental tourists ", a time for treatment is vital.

    The trend – for many years now – is for “ conservative dentistry “. If you have a choice, it’s better to conserve teeth than agree to extraction ( and perhaps dentures or other expensive treatment ).


    The cost of dental treatment does vary according to where you live, as well as how complicated the treatment is and whether any laboratory work is involved. While NHS costs are set each year by each of the four UK departments of health, dental fees in the private sector vary widely. There are no official guidelines for what private dentistry may cost.



    If you are registered as an NHS patient, you are entitled to emergency treatment within 24 hours, and private dentists have a duty to provide similar cover. It’s vital to give informed consent to treatment - in UK or the Philippines - which includes understanding possible complications, and what follow up is available.



    Almost all adults - and at least 2/5 schoolchildren - worldwide have dental cavities. Severe periodontal ( gum ) disease affects up to a fifth of middle-aged adults.


    The aim of regular ( at least once a year ) check ups is to achieve good oral health, as part of general health and quality of life. This isn’t just freedom from tooth decay and gum disease, with the pain they cause, but also infections, sores, mouth and throat cancer.


    Of course this is costly, and it’s a matter of opinion – and luck - whether it will be better to “ pay as you go “, or take out a monthly policy such as the UK’s “ Denplan “.



    A link between oral health, heart disease, stroke, diabetes and other conditions does exist. However, they have common risk factors such as age, family history, male sex, ethnicity ( which can’t be changed ), socioeconomic status, high cholesterol, and lifestyle factors such as smoking, alcohol excess, obesity. Indeed, the evidence for oral disease CAUSING disease elsewhere in the body is unconvincing. Stress through unexpectedly high dental charges may well be a contributory factor, however !


    Part of their training includes good communication skills, so the majority of dental professionals do realise that most people don’t enjoy visiting their practices. But good oral hygiene, fluoridated water / toothpaste, and check ups at reasonable intervals should ensure that the pain ( real and financial ) is minimised !


    http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNH...l-charges.aspx


    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publicati.../01/25085008/1


    http://www.healthcosts.wales.nhs.uk/nhs-dental-charges

    http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/dentists





    http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/dentalhea...ll-health.aspx


    http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/...5-649c64abed96


    http://www.gdc-uk.org/Newsandpublica...Dec%202010.pdf


    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs318/en/


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