But do you consider putting hundreds of thousands of working people through a travelling nightmare a proper challenge to the Mayor of London?Originally Posted by London_Manila
But do you consider putting hundreds of thousands of working people through a travelling nightmare a proper challenge to the Mayor of London?
Bob Crow is doing a sterling job for his membersThe thing that annoys me, and most others is that no matter what tax he pays he still takes home £91K a year but pays less than £8K in rent. Tube drivers get paid a starting wage of £46K and 43 days holiday, why are they striking........... because of the closure of ticket offices, why.......... because it's all automated, therefore staff in ticket offices are being paid to sit on theirall day. I pay over £400 a month for my other half to travel into London, but so far today it's taken her over 2 hours to do a 25 minute journey and she's now stuck at Paddington because the buses can't cope with the demand.
Bob Crowwhat a
Maybe if Bob Crow represented you then you might end up with better pay and conditions as well
Blame Mayor Boris Johnson for his lies
Are you seriously suggesting that part of our rail fare goes to paying people to sit doing nothing all day, this is the 21st Century where we don't need ticket offices.
Bob Crow is doing a sterling job for his members
Maybe if Bob Crow represented you then you might end up with better pay and conditions as well
Blame mayor Boris Johnson for his lies
If I was sitting on myall, I'd expect to kicked out on my ear or offered a position where I was made to do some work.
What I wouldn't expect is for the rest of the company to come out on strike because they think it's fine for them to subsidise me doing
The members have voted and Bob is carrying out his mandate
Point the finger and Boris
Oh dear, I don't really understand your work ethic of putting the boot in on my fellow workersIf I was sitting on my
What I wouldn't expect is for the rest of the company to come out on strike because they think it's fine for them to subsidise me doing
That's hardly unity
I thought only 30% of the members voted to strike, that's not exactly democratic is it?
40% of them voted, out of which 77% voted to strike, therefore only 30% were in favour of a strike
The operative word being WORKERSOh dear, I don't really understand your work ethic of putting the boot in on my fellow workers
That's hardly unity
The sort of job I could handle
The sort of job I could handle
... nice one! But ...
ExactlyYes i am sure the soon to arrive Syrian refugees would love bob's houseand what's wrong with that?
He's on 145k, he can afford to rent privately
...... I can visualise this thread degenerating into yet ANOTHER "them and us" political slanging match!
So ... ca' canny, lads ...! OK?
I agree..A 10k holiday for 2 is hardly a kings ransom..I spent half that amount on a week's jolly to Spain be it on Sun Sand and the otherOh are union leaders not allowed to take holidays now
As bob informed the Daily Mail he booked this trip from an advert in their paper...when in Rome
You're very astute LM :-) (I'm not being sarcastic, either) It's the 'fat cats' who run the country, dictating political agenda. Nothing new here...it happens the world over
Exactly
He's on 145k, he can afford to rent privately
He'd have to cancel his weekly Bollinger delivery
Tories got 10,703,654 votes at the last Election
45,597,461 people had the right to vote
he won the election with only 23% of the total number of people who had the right to vote
Beach Bum Bob doesn't use ticket offices (interview with ITV)
You have to move with the times. Have you got an Oyster Card? I have one. Most people do. Do we need as many ticket offices as we have? - 'Well that’s the issue at the end of the day…Of course there’s new technology…but it’s how you implement that change.'
But you have an Oyster Card, yes? - 'Yes.'
Do you use it? - 'Yes.'
So you don’t go to the ticket office? - 'No. But if I was partially sighted I couldn’t get an Oyster Card. If I couldn’t speak English properly I couldn’t. Also, if I was disabled and I had problems getting an Oyster Card. You’ve got to look at the minorities of people.'
Let’s talk about justification for the strike. Only a third of all members voted for strike action. Can you justify millions of Londoners standing in the rain tonight? - 'I can justify that because we’ve had a secret ballot and our members can vote yes or no and we respect their wishes whether they vote yes or no.'
But shouldn’t the threshold be higher? - 'Why don’t we have a margin and a threshold for local councils or MPs that are elected? The Mayor for example was elected with only 27% of Londoners. Has he got the mandate to close booking offices down?'
There’s an argument to say the Underground is an essential service…therefore if it was, you’d have to provide a minimum level on strike days… - 'Well a lot of things are essential services. Everything’s essential. Don’t forget, the first people who started ban strikes were people like Hitler before the war…'
Everyone is entitled to a holiday but isn’t the timing of your recent holiday appalling? - 'Not really. The holiday was booked last March. Eleven months ago so what was I meant to do?'
A man on your wage could have cancelled it and booked another one? - 'What and lose the money?'
Amazing how statistics can be manipulated isn't itTories got 10,703,654 votes at the last election
45,597,461 people had the right to vote
he won the election with only 23% of the total number of people who had the right to vote
Another way of putting it is that out of the all the registered voters less than 20% voted labour
Just a thought
As Bob is all for saving jobs, increasing wages etc Why doesn't the government bring in a minimum rent for council and social housing, so therefore those who need it get it and then if you earn more than the national average wage you could be means tested and your rent could fall in line with the equivalent private rent for a similar sized property in the same area
Good old Bob wouldn't object to his rent being doubled or trebled would he?
A fair minded bloke like Bolly Bob would raise a glass of champers to itGood old Bob wouldn't object to his rent being doubled or trebled would he?
Peter Hendy Transport for London's big cheese made £652,000 last yearExactly
He's on 145k, he can afford to rent privately
Boris Johnson only got 17% of the votes in the first round of voting in the London Mayor election
These are the last people who should be talking about pay rates and vote percentages
76% of RMT members who voted voted for a strike
I dont know where you are getting your figures from !
From the horse's mouth
Unite the Resistance home
London Underground workers vote by 77 percent for strikes
10 January 2014
Workers on London Underground have voted by 77 percent for strikes over ticket office closures and job cuts.
From RMT website:
Go here for more information
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TO ALL RMT MEMBERS – LONDON UNDERGROUND
Dear Colleagues,
EVERY JOB MATTERS – DEFENDING JOBS ON LONDON UNDERGROUND
The ballot result has now been received from the independent scrutineer and is as follows: -
Are you prepared to take strike action?
Total Votes Cast 3356
Number Voting ‘Yes’ 2567
Number Voting ‘No’ 742
Spoilt Papers 47
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