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    Fiancee Visa Documents Check list

    Hello guys,

    Sorry if this is "I guess" multi post but I hope you can bear with me. Hahaha. I am relying to UKBA website and to you guys hihi

    So we are collating documents now for my fiancee visa application, here are the documents:

    Applicant:
    * TOEIC english test scorecard for Listening and Speaking
    *I got my Tuberculosis screening (Normal)
    *Passport
    *Passport pictures 45mm x 35 mm (most recent within 1 month)
    *NBI
    *CENOMAR (issued January 2014)
    *Birth Certificate

    Employment:
    Certificate of Employment
    Most recent 6 months payslip
    Certificate of Compensation 2013

    Relationship:

    *Chat/call logs (Skype, viber, Whatsapp, Yahoo Messenger, regular call logs, facebook activities, Twitter activities, Date in Asia messages (where we met January 2013) )
    *Chat conversations about plans of getting married
    *Online receipts of Argos, marks and spencer, amazon (my gifts to him)
    *western union slips
    *gift wrappers (where you can find the postal stamps of his gifts that he sent to me)
    *Agoda booking confirmation of our hotel when he went here
    *letter from my mother
    *Pictures together, picture of the engagement ring, pictures of the items he sent to me (through post)
    * Provisional one way flight booking
    *My fiance's mum's christmas card for me
    * My cover letter


    Sponsor
    *Passport bio (colored)
    *Passport stamps (philippines May and November)
    *Scanned Driver's license

    Employment:
    *certificate of Employment
    *P60
    *Most recent 6 month Payslips
    *6 months most recent bank statements

    Accomodation:
    *Solicitors completion statement
    *Mortgage Deposit completion statement
    *Letters from the banking society advising changes in monthly mortgage re-payments. (monthly mortgage payments are shown at the beginning of each month on bank statement under “Halifax”
    *Deed of Property from Land Registry (online)
    *Pictures of the apartment

    Relationship:

    *birthday/anniversary Cards from me
    *Receipt of H.Samuels for my Engagement ring
    *Provisional Booking for wedding
    *Airplane tickets of him going in the Philippines
    *Letter from his sister
    *Enquiries to some restaurants about their packages for wedding lunch

    About the cards, should I photocopy it?

    Are those enough? Too much? Not enough?


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    Not sure if necessary, but would be of help if you can include an email to/from registry office inquiring about dates, procedures etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rani View Post
    Not sure if necessary, but would be of help if you can include an email to/from registry office inquiring about dates, procedures etc.
    Thanks for that Rani, however my fiance just rang them and book for our wedding and paid 30GBP and they sent a paper of the booking with our names, date of the wedding and place, plus the receipt. Is it the same thing as what you suggested?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jentobeharrison View Post
    Thanks for that Rani, however my fiance just rang them and book for our wedding and paid 30GBP and they sent a paper of the booking with our names, date of the wedding and place, plus the receipt. Is it the same thing as what you suggested?
    I think so! Best wishes to you


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    Jen, just to highlight that the very recent refusal of your Marriage Visa application highlights one of the areas of weakness that you'll need to be especially focussed on.
    That is one of evidencing a genuine, subsisting and serious relationship.
    You'll also need to focus on your intention to enter the UK to get married and your intention to live together permanently in the UK.

    Good luck


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Jen, just to highlight that the very recent refusal of your Marriage Visa application highlights one of the areas of weakness that you'll need to be especially focussed on.
    That is one of evidencing a genuine, subsisting and serious relationship.
    You'll also need to focus on your intention to enter the UK to get married and your intention to live together permanently in the UK.

    Good luck

    Hi terpe, that's what I am really focusing about, on how to prove that our relationship is real, but what else I can do? That's the only stuff I can submit :( and about the intention of getting married in UK, are ring receipts, provisional booking, enquiries with the restaurants nor enough? We don't have lots of money for our wedding, it will just be a simple and for family only as we are saving for the next visa after we get married :'( I can't buy wedding dress yet :(


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    You need to show how many times he's been back and forth to see you and how long you've actually been together, in the flesh so to speak. . This is something you haven't mentioned....nor have I read how long you been together. I may have missed that. .if so I apologise.

    All very well rubbishing the authorities but, if he's only been to see you on a single holiday then the authorities have every right to be suspicious of your intentions.

    Just a thought okay. .


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    I think as you've made some tentative plans then you probably had some discussions together for the future wedding. Any evidence at all, however small, to show that wedding arrangements are in hand will all help.
    How about any e-mails, texts or facebook messages that specifically mention wedding plans, especially in connection with:-
    - Where and when
    - Rings, dress, cake, catering, reception
    - Guests, invitations
    - Any quotations relating to wedding arrangements (just demonstrates that the couple have some intention)
    - Honeymoon

    If they believe the relationship is genuine then they usually believe a marriage will take place given reasonable evidence.

    Consider including a supporting letter from both sets of parents acknowledging the engagement and wedding and welcoming you both into the family.

    Have your fiance write a good supporting letter outlining how long you have been together and important events and meetings between yourselves.
    You may also briefly outline the start of the relationship, how it developed, the times you met face-to-face, some things you did together, your feelings for each other, why you want to marry, plans for the future and where you will live and how you will support yourselves.
    Keep it simple and above all be honest about everything.

    Just some ideas to build on


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    Jen,
    What you've called a 'Certificate of Employment' needs to be a letter from the employer confirming:-

    - employment and gross annual salary
    - length of employment
    - length of time over which they have been paid the level of salary stated
    - the employment status/type (permanent, fixed-term contract, agency etc)


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    just to go off topic slightly.

    is it a case of UKBA looking more stringently at fiancee visa applications--as opposed to spouse visa apps?. after all--if its a spouse app--then its a case of fait accomplis--and so long as the sponsorship criteria are correctly met---how can UKBA reasonably refuse ?

    in which case--if a couple offset the cost of a return flight for the ( groom ) to the philis compared to the added cost of the extra FLR fee if the fiancee comes to marry here?

    do you see where i'm coming from ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac View Post
    just to go off topic slightly.

    is it a case of UKBA looking more stringently at fiancee visa applications--as opposed to spouse visa apps?. after all--if its a spouse app--then its a case of fait accomplis--and so long as the sponsorship criteria are correctly met---how can UKBA reasonably refuse ?
    Well... a number of both Fiance(e) and Spouse visa's have been refused when the ECO feels there is no serious intention to marry or when it's believed to be a marriage of convenience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac View Post
    just to go off topic slightly.

    is it a case of UKBA looking more stringently at fiancee visa applications--as opposed to spouse visa apps?. after all--if its a spouse app--then its a case of fait accomplis--and so long as the sponsorship criteria are correctly met---how can UKBA reasonably refuse ?

    in which case--if a couple offset the cost of a return flight for the ( groom ) to the philis compared to the added cost of the extra FLR fee if the fiancee comes to marry here?

    do you see where i'm coming from ?
    I suppose its everyone to the own bigmac.

    But me personally I found it hard when I left my fiance on the first visit but bloody devastating after the second visit the time that we married.

    Nearly 5 months seperated from each other was hell... just my opinion...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    You need to show how many times he's been back and forth to see you and how long you've actually been together, in the flesh so to speak. . This is something you haven't mentioned....nor have I read how long you been together. I may of missed that. .if so I apologise.

    All very well rubbishing the authorities but, if he's only been to see you on a single holiday then the authorities have every right to be suspicious of your intentions.

    Just a thought okay. .
    He's been here twice to visit me. We will submit his Philippine stamps in his passport, hotel receipt where we stayed, pictures together and his flight tickets.

    We've been in a relationship for one year


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    Surely if money is an issue why go to the expense of marrying in the UK. I'd have thought it be wise to marry in the Philippines. They'd save a fortune. It would make sense to all. And hopefully wipe away any suspicion.

    I don't think we know it all as yet coz we don't actually know what time her fiancé has been with her. That might give a clue as to why the authorities think the relationship is not genuine.

    We..Both ex partners, submitted all those documents on Jen's list and got visas without any problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jentobeharrison View Post
    He's been here twice to visit me. We will submit his Philippine stamps in his passport, hotel receipt where we stayed, pictures together and his flight tickets.

    We've been in a relationship for one year
    Hiya Jen just take the advice the guys have given and you should be fine.

    I visited my wife twice also and we were in a relationship just 8 months and the visa application was successful, hope that takes away any fears you have.

    God Bless and Good Luck, Mark...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Surely if money is an issue why go to the expense of marrying in the UK. I'd of thought it be wise to marry in the Philippines. They'd save a fortune. It would make sense to all. And hopefully wipe away any suspicion.

    I don't think we know it all as yet coz we don't actually know what time her fiancé has been with her. That might give a clue as to why the authorities think the relationship is not genuine.

    We..Both ex partners, submitted all those documents on Jen's list and got visas any problems.
    Of course we have thought of marrying here, who wouldn't be right, but the thing is he cannot have that long off which is required just for us to finish every wedding preparation here in the Philippines, he is employed and impossible to get a month off. And also, he's paying his apartment every month, it wouldn't be practical if no one is staying there for a month and we have to pay for hotel or any rental house here for a month.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    I think as you've made some tentative plans then you probably had some discussions together for the future wedding. Any evidence at all, however small, to show that wedding arrangements are in hand will all help.
    How about any e-mails, texts or facebook messages that specifically mention wedding plans, especially in connection with:-
    - Where and when
    - Rings, dress, cake, catering, reception
    - Guests, invitations
    - Any quotations relating to wedding arrangements (just demonstrates that the couple have some intention)
    - Honeymoon

    If they believe the relationship is genuine then they usually believe a marriage will take place given reasonable evidence.

    Consider including a supporting letter from both sets of parents acknowledging the engagement and wedding and welcoming you both into the family.

    Have your fiance write a good supporting letter outlining how long you have been together and important events and meetings between yourselves.
    You may also briefly outline the start of the relationship, how it developed, the times you met face-to-face, some things you did together, your feelings for each other, why you want to marry, plans for the future and where you will live and how you will support yourselves.
    Keep it simple and above all be honest about everything.

    Just some ideas to build on
    Thank you for these, I will really tell him, I've made an outline for his guide but I would let him write everything


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    Quote Originally Posted by marksroomspain View Post
    Hiya Jen just take the advice the guys have given and you should be fine.

    I visited my wife twice also and we were in a relationship just 8 months and the visa application was successful, hope that takes away and fears you have.

    God Bless and Good Luck, Mark...


    She must've drawn a dodgy officer. It has been known

    My wife was wd me in the uk a year exactly to the day we met online. I only visited thrice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marksroomspain View Post
    Hiya Jen just take the advice the guys have given and you should be fine.

    I visited my wife twice also and we were in a relationship just 8 months and the visa application was successful, hope that takes away and fears you have.

    God Bless and Good Luck, Mark...

    Aww thank you!! Yes will definitely do. However can you share with me the wedding preparations you have submitted? Tho' we have few conversations about our wedding..


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    Keith visited me twice (within a year) before I lodged my fiancee visa and I only waited 2 weeks to get the approved visa. As long as you provided them all (I advise more if you do have more documents) that they want to see and your relationship is genuine, then everything will be alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jentobeharrison View Post
    Aww thank you!! Yes will definitely do. However can you share with me the wedding preparations you have submitted? Tho we have few conversation about our wedding..
    Sorry Jen I forgot to mention that the marriage took place in the Phils.

    But the point I was making was that twice visiting was enough also an 8 month relationship was enough also.

    There have been many many questions thrown up here since I became a member regarding which visa is easiest, the spouse or the fiance, basically there are both the same apart from extra expense for FLR once married and in the UK.

    If you can just supply as much evidence as possible regarding the genuiness of the relationship and I stipulate once again follow the guys advice on here then you will be fine.

    I know how stressful this all is and know how you feel but you are at the best forum with a wealth of advice from us guys here.

    Take care Jen...


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    As said before letters from yourself your mother and father also a letter from somebody else(could be another family member) who knows how happy you both are, also letters from boyfriends family also.

    Just give as much evidence as you can pics, fb, skype ect ect, also anything else you can throw at them.

    Just be positive and in maybe 3 months time there will be another post about the success of your visa application.

    Once again, God bless...


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    Perhaps, engagement "congratulation cards" from friends could help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marksroomspain View Post
    Sorry Jen I forgot to mention that the marriage took place in the Phils.

    But the point I was making was that twice visiting was enough also an 8 month relationship was enough also.

    There have been many many questions thrown up here since I became a member regarding which visa is easiest, the spouse or the fiance, basically there are both the same apart from extra expense for FLR once married and in the UK.
    I advise just that..to marry in the Philippines. It will be cheaper in the long run and prove without doubt your relationship is kosha


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    *I advise just that..to marry in the Philippines. It will be cheaper in the long run
    Yes ... ! *Me too!!

    ................................... 's what I did.


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    I appreciate your suggestions about marrying here, both of us would really want to, he works in BT and their reliability has a huge impact to his job, if I am not mistaken he is only allowed 25 days off a year, but he cannot use it all in just one occassion, what if he got sick? What if he has something to do for a day? You know, if it is not really about his job, we would really choose to get married here, no questions asked. Also, his loneliness is killing him, I know you have been through the same.

    We cannot change plans anymore, we have already started this, if we are going to change our plans again, we will be messed up. hihi but I appreciate your suggestions tho.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rani View Post
    Perhaps, engagement "congratulation cards" from friends could help.
    We do not have that eh. :( but his sister is creating a letter now. My mama will also create one


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    Thank you for your advises guys, I love it and I am noting it. I have received my fiance's sponsorship letter and I am so flattered, I have read it and it is 3 page long. Hes been so speficic in letter and followed the guidelines you have posted in writing a cover letter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jentobeharrison View Post
    Thank you for your advises guys, I love it and I am noting it. I have received my fiance's sponsorship letter and I am so flattered, I have read it and it is 3 page long. Hes been so speficic in letter and followed the guidelines you have posted in writing a cover letter.


    When I submitted mine, Keith's sponsor letter was 8 pages! I even managed to get it shorter from 9/10! Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post


    When I submitted mine, Keith's sponsor letter was 8 pages! I even managed to get it shorter from 9/10! Hahaha
    Hi, Another question, Is it right that my boyfriend's sister addressing her letter to ECO?

    As my mum will also create a letter for both of us, should it be addressed to ECO?


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