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    I think the last thing I'd be importing into the Phils would be timber/'lumber'...considering the ridiculously low prices charged for the stuff there.

    Added to that, it's probably the last material I'd be wanting to build anything worth more than a few thousand pesos from, as its life in a tropical, pest-infested country is likely to be very short. IMHO.


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    Graham, appreciate the comments.

    I agree lumber should (and will) be cheaper, but I'm more interested in not starting from scratch, hence the "kit" idea.

    Granted Australia ain't as "tropical" as Philly, but it's certainly as hot and as pest-infested.... and they go down the timber house route often.
    Ditto Malaysia.

    Not saying I disagree with you, because I've also had these thoughts...... I just need to do some more research before totally dismissing the idea.
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    Probably ought to have its own dedicated thread as it's very interesting and could well develop over time.

    I've often considered constructing something a 'bit-different' in the Paradise Islands but it always gets too complicated and since I'm not living there I tend to drift away from the initial motivation.
    Anyway, what I'm getting round to is that of the The National Building Code of the Philippines.
    For new designs and/or new constructions I understand it's still required to follow those written guidelines. A bit like our Building Regs.

    I reckon that's probably a pretty good starting point.......well that's what I've been told.

    Graham, I'm sure your experiences are much better than mine, but I wonder whether decent wood is still cheap these days. Most of the quality local wood seems to get directed to furniture. I don't know the facts to be honest just a general feeling.
    I do think a wooden frame would need some regular maintenance

    Anyone else feel this would would make an interesting thread?
    I could create one and add these last few postings to it....
    BBJ what do you think? Any ideas for a thread title?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdjones View Post
    Guys (esp Imagine, Jake, Fred...)
    I'm thinking about the idea of buying a kit house (timber construction) from a Malaysian, Aussie or other regional supplier, and then shipping in a container to the Philippines.

    Any of you aware of others who've done the same/similar ?

    Any pitfalls other than the obvious ? (customs duty, make sure wood is treated, excavate to get rid of termite nests)

    I'm thinking something like this:
    http://www.house-uk.co.uk/Lauri147.html
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    http://www.alternatedwellings.com.au/kornalla.asp
    as an idea
    's certainly an interesting post, Marc and ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Probably ought to have its own dedicated thread as it's very interesting and could well develop over time.
    ... yes, with Peter - it's definitely more than worthy of its own thread, IMHO!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... yes, with Peter - it's definitely more than worthy of its own thread, IMHO!
    ... Fred appears to have beaten you to it, I'm afraid!


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    You could call it 'Do good house designs grow on trees...or are they a rotten idea ? '


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    Only just seen this Stewart, what an adventure, good luck!


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    Step one:

    Try to find out WHAT species your wood/lumber is...

    Some interesting links here:

    http://www.idewood.com/index.php?pid=8
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    http://myphilippinelife.com/our-phil...ect-carpentry/

    In the Phils I've built lots and lots of aviaries and cages, plus a decent sized shop, all from various kinds of lumber, but for my house project I chose reinforced concrete, and concrete blocks.


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    Peter,
    Yes, it might be worth developing as a thread..... if only to say "no, it doesn't work" at the end of the analysis, or "beware of these pitfalls" if it does turn out to be a viable option.

    How about
    Kit Houses - a viable option for the Philippines ?"

    But I bow to thoughts of others on here.
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    It sounds interesting.


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    in the beginning was our hollow blocker started a few months prior to start of project and completed today 4000 6 inch blocks and 700 4 inch blocks, all made to class A ,



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    The Ritual. PADUGO, 1st day of start of project


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    The Ritual. PADUGO, 1st day of start of project
    We had a pig with it's throat cut. They splashed blood over the clean white multi cab then proceeded to make a mess in my premises WTF! I didnt even know this was about to happen Then the local preist came along doin likewise with the holy water. I was half expecting Samatha Eggar to come flying in on her broomstick


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    We had a pig with it's throat cut. They splashed blood over the clean white multi cab then proceeded to make a mess in my premises WTF! I didnt even know this was about to happen Then the local preist came along doin likewise with the holy water. I was half expecting Samatha Eggar to come flying in on her broomstick
    our pig is next , before the pouring of cement for posts


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    our pig is next , before the pouring of cement for posts
    All good fun Stewart I hope you're settling ok. You look happy enough in the pics


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    the rear of our project before start of construction

    view from the front through to back of project, the old is completely demolished,


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    You're very posh............we had only chicken


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    You're very posh............we had only chicken
    guess we must be cos we also had 3 chickens plus the goat


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    Just went to a friends project here and he has one of these on site..Made it himself and I wish I had one to grade sand for finishing cement render..
    Unlike the video,his makes no noise at all.. Fine sand production is fast efficient and cheap.





    Here`s a better one.. A lot quieter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Just went to a friends project here and he has one of these on site..Made it himself and I wish I had one to grade sand for finishing cement render..
    Unlike the video,his makes no noise at all.. Fine sand production is fast efficient and cheap.
    my connection not good enough to play vids yet, but yes i get the idea , very good,
    i will get a better look later


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    got our permission to pour the concrete for posts, by lunchtime we had our pig and blessed the posts with blood, then the pouring began





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    Crikey!! Was you a safety officer in the U.K??
    I wouldn`t even know where I could buy that many hard hats here!!
    My blokes all wear flip flops!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Crikey!! Was you a safety officer in the U.K??
    I wouldn`t even know where I could buy that many hard hats here!!
    My blokes all wear flip flops!!
    I bought them good quality hard hats, the cheap ones are poor quality, 26 hats all in all

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    and whatever happened to our pig



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    i bought a new portable welder for the construction, its made in austrailia, ( cigweld 130.170 inverter arc.) oddly it has a 3 pin 13 amp fused plug, identical to uk, now this welder is 20amp, but the type of welder it is makes it compatable to a 30 amp welder which means its light weight and no worries about the transformer on the power supply or causing problems with the stores near our construction,

    the thing is ,,, the fuse keeps blowing,no 13 amp fuses here available, lucky i brought some from uk, dont ask why i did, must have had a second sight

    we contacted the hardwear store its a big store well known here, they say put a 20 amp fuse in it and they will take responsability if it gets damaged,

    the only 20 amp 210 volt fuses are glass fuses but longer than the 13amp, i dont like the idea of this but i have adapted the plug to take the fuse, and will try 1st with a 15 amp fuse,
    this welder cost 23,000 p thats with the discount, im wishing i had just bought a cheap 8,000 kamato instead, i didnt because im told they are cheap and unreliable but so is the one i have.
    i was thinking the safest way was to get a voltage regulater, but what size for a welder

    anyone any idea how to resolve this?


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    Dunno about the amps / voltage things Imagine but the fact that it has a UK Spec 13 amp plug on it might be cos the Aussies are selling the welder to Singapore & Malaysia which being common sense countries have UK plugs.

    Have you tried contacting the manufacturer ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Dunno about the amps / voltage things Imagine but the fact that it has a UK Spec 13 amp plug on it might be cos the Aussies are selling the welder to Singapore & Malaysia which being common sense countries have UK plugs.

    Have you tried contacting the manufacturer ?
    Our archtect, who helps us as he lives in Cagayan where the supplier is, spoke to them on my behalf. I had relayed to him that they should contact the manufacturer for advice. Now I don't know if they have, but we can't have a delay by returning the welder to them just now, for exchange, but merchant said they will take full responsibility for upgrading to a higher fuse. They suggest 20 amp, if the welder breaks because of this. They will replace or exchange. I've just been reading the manual, and the makers have email address so I'll try to contact myself that way and see what they say


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    How can a 20A welder have a 13A supply? Does it have some kind of battery reserve?


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    I think you need to share more info Stewart...
    I'm not an electrician.
    I do have a MIG welder with max output at 135 amps which works very happily from my domestic supply with a 13 a fused plug. It's good for steel up to 5mm thick max (although I've not welded 5mm thickness so far usually around 4mm max)

    Output current on a welder is NOT equal to the input current.
    A simple transformer-style welding unit converts the input voltage and current electricity into a high current and low voltage supply.

    Just in simple terms remember that Power(Watts) = Current(Amps) x Voltage(Volts).

    It's important to check the output ratings for different duty cycles and rest times. Just as example 60% means welding time is 6 minutes and rest time is 4 minutes.

    Do you have a MIG welder or Stick (Arc) welder?
    MIG welders don't generally draw as much power as most Arcs welders.

    Here in UK that 135 amps is just about on the limit for plugging into domestic supply.

    Just trying to help......


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    Sheriel from Leyte

    Stewart, I would have thought it was A Stick Welder, I saw many being used on Construction Sites in the Philippines. Welding using coated electrodes,1.5,2.00,2.5,3.00cm electrodes and even larger, the Fuse if in UK, we would safely upgrade fuse by wrapping fuse wire round blown fuse, maybe 20,30 amps,wire,and we have welded safely allday without damaging the welder,or supply, many times, on site and in workshops, I personally am a coded welder,is fuse wire available in hardware shops in the Philippines. Perhaps someone will know ......


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