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    I respect and appreciate the opinions of Jake, Fred, gWaPito, Terpe, and Jamesey on this issue . However, it’s still to be hoped that a majority of Filipinos have less conservative views than the Catholic Church would have us believe, and are broadly “ in favour “ of the law.
    This is my take on it Doc..
    The views of the poor massa are developed at home and within their communities.. Many of their parents are not educated in the ways of family planning at school..They are educated on Sundays in church and their kids that may or may not be at school are educated by their Catholic teachers or within their communities that have always been taught their whole life`s to fear God and abide by his scripture..
    We have Bishops here on local TV explaining why the R.P has a healthy economy.. They say its because they have an abundance of Filipino OFW`s that work abroad sending back hard currency that is utilized here..The use of condoms of course would deplete that resource in the medium to long term. They tell their congregation that their faith is a blessing from God for which they will be rewarded.. Blah blah blah.. Here in Tagbilaran you cannot have a passenger tricycle registered without a painted/printed verse from the bible to be displayed clearly on the rear.
    This scripture has been ingrained into their way of life for hundreds of years!!
    I think that eventually these laws will begin to take effect as the R.P slowly attempts to take on the Bishops and modernize..
    This will take decades to achieve IMO..
    I hope I`m wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    This is my take on it Doc..
    The views of the poor massa are developed at home and within their communities.. Many of their parents are not educated in the ways of family planning at school..They are educated on Sundays in church and their kids that may or may not be at school are educated by their Catholic teachers or within their communities that have always been taught their whole life`s to fear God and abide by his scripture..
    We have Bishops here on local TV explaining why the R.P has a healthy economy.. They say its because they have an abundance of Filipino OFW`s that work abroad sending back hard currency that is utilized here..The use of condoms of course would deplete that resource in the medium to long term. They tell their congregation that their faith is a blessing from God for which they will be rewarded.. Blah blah blah.. Here in Tagbilaran you cannot have a passenger tricycle registered without a painted/printed verse from the bible to be displayed clearly on the rear.
    This scripture has been ingrained into their way of life for hundreds of years!!
    I think that eventually these laws will begin to take effect as the R.P slowly attempts to take on the Bishops and modernize..
    This will take decades to achieve IMO..
    I hope I`m wrong.


    I'm a Catholic and I believe in God. But I don't rely on what the priests say. What Fred said is one of the reasons why I refused to study in a Catholic school and have nuns and priests teaching a subject. Their views might be intertwined with what the bible says. When I was in primary school (a public school), a nun would go to the class weekly to teach about Religion. I always hated the subject because she regularly told us that not going to Sunday school will have consequences for us and would prevent us to go to heaven eventhough my grandma and parents would take us to church to have a mass. Duh! I always wished that the nun will not attend the class weekly or the choir club will always call me and excuse me to attend the Religion class and practice with the choir instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    This is my take on it Doc ...

    ... I think that eventually these laws will begin to take effect as the R.P slowly attempts to take on the Bishops and modernize..
    This will take decades to achieve IMO..
    ... but wouldn't it also help, to "exorcise" the superstitious beliefs (instilled throughout past centuries by cruel, "inquisition"-style tactics) that prevailed during the Spanish regime?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... but wouldn't it also help, to exorcise the superstitious beliefs instilled throughout past centuries by the "inquisition"-style tactics that prevailed during the Spanish regime?
    Now that is a far too complicated subject for me to comment on really as it is a part of Spanish history that I have not studied and one that I do not fully understand.
    I have a feeling that the Spanish inquisition played no part in Philippine history or in Filipino society..
    I could be wrong though.
    I often am!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Now that is a far too complicated subject for me to comment on really as it is a part of Spanish history that I have not studied and one that I do not fully understand.
    I have a feeling that the Spanish inquisition played no part in Philippine history or in Filipino society..
    I could be wrong though.
    I often am!
    Can't claim to be clued~up on any of it myself to be honest, Fred;
    ... I'm simply basing this theory of mine on an awareness of it being the Spanish who introduced Catholicism to the Philippines in the first instance, and from what I'd picked up in conversation with older Filipinos to the effect that the Spaniards were far from being the most docile occupants of these islands, historically.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Can't claim to be clued~up on any of it myself to be honest, Fred;
    ... I'm simply basing this theory of mine on an awareness of it being the Spanish who introduced Catholicism to the Philippines in the first instance, and from what I'd picked up in conversation with older Filipinos to the effect that the Spaniards were far from being the most docile occupants of these islands, historically.
    Yes thats correct Art.. I was told that the Barangay system was introduced by the Spanish in a way to control the whole of the country,town by town,province by province.. The Spanish friars were given the very first positions of Barangay captains throughout the country,with instructions to convert and control... As you well know..The barangay council system is still active until this day.
    What chance did Filipino`s stand?
    That said..If it wasn`t for the Spanish I reckon they would ALL be Muslim today..(a bit like the Dutch not speaking Deutsche today coz of the British and Yanks)
    So its not all bad!!


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