PM backs spy chief's attack on Guardian: Security expert warned leaks risk 'widespread loss of life' but BBC buries criticism of Left-wing paper
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This rag should be shutdown and the Editor jailed
dedworth is that 'loss of life' or 'loss of face' for the gov
don't you think the British people have a right to know they've been spied on ? look at Prism and GCHQ with suggestions they were by-passing British laws
if they have, they should be the ones who are going to court
talk about 1984 George Orwell
The Guardian and their leftist allies at the BBC have little regard for British livesOriginally Posted by joebloggs
don't you think the British people have a right to know they've been spied on ? look at Prism and GCHQ with suggestions they were by-passing British laws
if they have, they should be the ones who are going to court
talk about 1984 George Orwell
Some of their people need locking up.
Shut it down....a threat to our country. Bloody fools.
what lives, who's dead
threat from where ? you mean spying on us
its egg on the face of the gov, all the dirty tricks and spying on its citizens
i believe for once being in the EU might put a stop to this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rt-claims.html
Do you think even more tips and hints should be divulged to the terrorists ?what lives, who's dead
threat from where ?
what hints and tipswhat tips will they get from spying on your emails, texts and calls dedworth ?
That's your selective take on the issue Joe - they get plenty of info and assistance from the publication of classified intelligence docs by the Guardian plus of course monitoring the germs emails, texts and callswhat hints and tips
The only people who should be worried about being 'spied' on are the one's with something to hide. I really couldn't give aif my emails are monitored.
Have a read of this and tell me if you would rather they didn't gather intelligence in anyway they see fit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21878867
so its ok for the gov to break the law
http://www.itpro.co.uk/public-sector...-uk-government
a comment from a reader
Private Email should have the same status as Royal Mail when it comes to privacy, at least as regards governments. It is a major offense to mess with the Royal Mail.
Exactly right Simon.
The 'secret' services can do with all the help thay can get though, and stupid
dedworth keeps telling me the BBC is biasedThe only people who should be worried about being 'spied' on are the one's with something to hide. I really couldn't give a
Have a read of this and tell me if you would rather they didn't gather intelligence in anyway they see fit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21878867
what about your rights Graham, your right to privacy or don't you want anyExactly right Simon.
The 'secret' services can do with all the help thay can get though, and stupid
would you be happy if someone working for the gov started opening all your post etc
Joe, my life is an open book....nothing to hide.what about your rights Graham, your right to privacy or don't you want any
would you be happy if someone working for the gov started opening all your post etc
If they do find out about my secret hoard of Jelly Tots and HotCar magazines, I will fess up and take my medicine.
so its ok for the gov to break the law
http://www.itpro.co.uk/public-sector...-uk-government
a comment from a reader
Private Email should have the same status as Royal Mail when it comes to privacy, at least as regards governments. I is a major offense to mess with the Royal Mail.
If the government suspect me or anyone else of breaking the law or planning to jeopardize
anyone else's life then I fully expect them to read my electronic mail as well as my personal mail.
Or are you saying that you've suddenly discovered a loop hole in the law and I can claim it's against my human rights when my mate Pablo posts me a kilo of coke and some sneaky government official intercepts it
you've still not answered my question is it ok for the gov to break the law ? no one is above the law
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Of course our security services are given some dispensation, where certain laws are concerned.
It would be ridiculous if they weren't...just as you'd be pretty peed off if the ambulance sent to save the life of one of your loved ones was obliged ALWAYS to stop at every red traffic light.
I for one will not defend ANY 5th columnists...such as the treasonous meddling fools employed by some of our media.
I WILL back to the hilt those people who are employed to guard our nation's security.
What law in particular are you talking aboutyou've still not answered my question is it ok for the gov to break the law ? no one is above the law
I think Im with you on this one Joe..what lives, who's dead
threat from where ? you mean spying on us
its egg on the face of the gov, all the dirty tricks and spying on its citizens
i believe for once being in the EU might put a stop to this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rt-claims.html
Its the reason that I dont post pictures of me or my family anywhere on the internet..
I also use a pseudonym and a VPN and I doubt my IP can be traced as I don't have a proper ISP.
Im not a criminal and I have nothing to hide but my life is private and I`ll do all I can to protect that.
The very thought of a Government nerd spying on me is not something I would personally tolerate if it came to my attention.
I`d be ....... angry.
Civil rights groups have filed papers arguing that the use of Prism, an internet surveillance scheme which whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed had been tapping private online communications since 2007, breaches the right to privacy found in the European Convention on Human Rights.What law in particular are you talking about
so spying on us all didn't prevent the 7th july 2005 attacks
Fred I've been on forums where people have fallen out over comments made and its ended in threats of psychical violence against them and their family, from their IP address , and information from their previous posts they found\worked out their real name and address
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/tex.../1100-6410871/
just recently i recall someone being refused entry to America because of something they posted on Facebook
I expect the bombers used pseudonyms and a VPN and I doubt their IP can be traced as I suspect they don't have a proper ISP
so spying on us all didn't prevent the 7th july 2005 attacks
I expect the bombers used pseudonyms and a VPN and I doubt their IP can be traced as I suspect they don't have a proper ISPMaybe Abdul the terrorist also changed his name to a non suspicious one like Fred
well no point in spying on people whenI expect the bombers used pseudonyms and a VPN and I doubt their IP can be traced as I suspect they don't have a proper ISP
Civil rights groups have filed papers arguing that the use of Prism, an internet surveillance scheme which whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed had been tapping private online communications since 2007, breaches the right to privacy found in the European Convention on Human Rights.
so spying on us all didn't prevent the 7th july 2005 attacks
I'm sure we've all learnt a lot in the last 8 years, but people always remember the bad days, not a week ago last Thursday when there were no bomb threats, I wonder why
Once more:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21878867
Joe - next time you find yourself under surveillance, your emails and texts being read or your mobile listened to file a complaint with this body :-
http://www.ipt-uk.com/
Welcome to the Investigatory Powers Tribunal (IPT) website. The IPT exists to investigate complaints about the potential conduct of various public bodies, in relation to you, your property or communications.
This site explains the functions, structure and jurisdiction of the Tribunal and provides contact details should you need further information or wish to make a complaint.
The IPT was established in October 2000, as a result of the enactment of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA, 2000). The IPT can consider complaints about the use of a number of intrusive powers used by intelligence services, law enforcement agencies and public authorities.
what powers do they have ? looks like none
PRISM: Germany demands UK reveals extent of GCHQ spying agenda
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/22775...#disqus_thread
It's a secretwhat powers do they have ? looks like none
I'm fully behind our intelligence services using whatever means to protect us. We're not dealing with the old style Irish, Arab etc 20th century terrorists now so the methods of intelligence gathering needs to keep pace with all the online, wireless and mobile methods of communication. Many of these grubs were born in the UK and it takes massive effort and resources to root them out.
what powers do they have ? looks like none
“In theory Britain's intelligence agencies are subject to UK law and accountable to parliament. However, as the PRISM controversy has exposed, there is nothing to stop GCHQ from handing over our personal information to US security services so they can pick through it at will,”
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/22775...#disqus_thread
What's that second word you've highlighted in bold mean again
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