In general I am against prosecutions being brought for very old cases.
I would suspect (and hope) there is substantial evidence to justify his detention, and I just hope the police investigation is sound, so that if he goes to court, it does not get thrown out at the first hurdle.
well hopefully he gets sent down now that audio tapes have surfaced which were not meant to be revealed until they all died ,good ol american judges to thank for that.looks like he ordered the shooting.Originally Posted by johncar54
Well unless they have some 'hard evidence' which of course we cannot know at the moment whether they do or don't, I cannot believe that anyone after this length of time will 'put hands up'.
Eye witnesses at the time would make good witnesses, but with the passing of so much time since the crime, and the age of the potential witnesses at the time, they will still have to go some to obtain a guilty verdict.
Just as well you are not a victim like all the other countless families who's lost loved ones in these awful troubles.
Imagine going to bed night after night. ..year after year not knowing whether your son daughter mother or dad was alive or dead.
That's ok because our experienced man here from that fine Metropolitan Police department says he's against bringing prosecutions in old cases.
God forbid! But, if I were ever to find myself in that awful position involving any of my family ...I'd hunt out the culprits, perpetrators (or whoever) with every fibre of my being - regardless as to how long it took - until justice was served.
God forbid! But, if I were ever to find myself in that awful position involving any of my family ...Me too
Don't be so presumptuous, I lost family there too but I do not wish to air that here.
And just so that you know, my brother was murdered in UK, so don't waste your time thinking that I speak only as a former police officer (on a few occasions risking my life, and for 30 years putting my family second, to assist people like you). And just like you, I too have always been a member of the real world. So if you don't mind I, and I am sure all the other officers and former officers, would appreciate it if you would stick to discussing the thread and stop degrading yourself with your cheap jibes.
John, it,s in comments like yours that the public lose faith in police officers. A crime is a crime it does not matter how long ago it was committed it should always be chased down for as long as it takes. Max Clifford,s a classic example, someone who thought because he was a high profile geezer nobody could touch him. Another thing thatoff the public, if you,re a victim of burglary the damn police don,t even bother coming out no more. You,re just given a crime number coz it,s too much bother for them.
Firstly, I am not a police officer now. I was for 30 years and have now been retired for almost as long, so what I say is not based just on once being a police officer, but on my whole life.
You might just as well say that my posts are because I am a man, or 74 yrs old, an engineer, have a Filipino wife, live in Spain, ride a racing bike, ride a motorcycle, drive a car, that my brother was murdered, that I have disappeared relatives in Ireland, that I have dual nationality etc. etc.
What I post is based, just like everybody else, on my life's experiences.
As a private citizen I would appreciate it if the police spent their time and our money, on matters that are more relevant to the every day life of victims of crime and on the prevention of crime. As you say maybe investigating more burglaries.
An example of wasting resources. I have just sent yet another email about info I gave regarding elderly male twins who committed suicide, one of whom, after his death, I believed may been paedophile whom I suspected the UK police might be investigating. I contacted the JS enquiry to tell them they were dead so if they were seeking them they could save time and money on a 'dead end.' Since then I have had about 10 calls / emails following up my info. So much for my efforts to save a waste of police time.
As you mentioned the lack of attention when say a burglary is committed.
Before I retired a lot of police time was wasted appearing to investigate crimes which were from the outset probably unsolvable. Whilst the victims were maybe impressed that police were doing something, in effect they were not doing anything but give an impression.
A high level decision was taken that time should be concentrated on crimes which had a reasonable chance of resolution, as the criminals caught would logically also have been responsible for many of the unsolvable crimes.
I have no personal experience whether time has proved that to be correct or not, but I suspect it has.
I agree but if the perpetrator is dead, continuing to throw public money at an investigation, which will go nowhere, seems like a waste of money to me as a taxpayer (incidentally, it would too if I were still a detective).A crime is a crime it does not matter how long ago it was committed it should always be chased down for as long as it takes
This is what I'm basing my posts on, life experiences.
Who says the guy who pulled the trigger is dead? The guy who gave the order is just as guilty, if not more so.
''Just as well you are not a victim like all the other countless families who's lost loved ones in these awful troubles.
Imagine going to bed night after night. ..year after year not knowing whether your son daughter mother or dad was alive or dead.
That's OK because our experienced man here from that fine Metropolitan Police department says he's against bringing prosecutions in old cases.
Would you mind pointing out the cheap jibes and self degradation ?. All I see is you giving it the mother superior
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