Anti-Jewish slogans return

[joebloggs]

Love it when you join a discussion Joe, as you always stitch yourself up. You certainly add to my amusement for the day

Let's look at your statement!

The rockets which you cannot deny have been fired at anything possible by Hamas - mainly targeting populated town's. That's a fact!

The Israeli defense system has downed most of them, luckily or the deaths would obviously be higher - Yes?

But at the end of the day they were fired in the hope of inflicting damage to civilians.

Ok, moving onto why so many civilians have died in Palestine:

Simple - Human shields in a densely-populated area. We have seen how barbaric Hamas can be - it's in their blood.

How can Israel target out a single rocket launcher and operator when placed in schools, hospital grounds, etc?

Tough, it has to be taken out and it's Hamas with the blood on their hands.

Now Hamas have broken ceasefire again!

So Israel will attack with more and more force till the rocket attacks cease - I would do the same if I was being attacked.

Can you remind me how this latest escalation started Joe? Oh yeah, 3 Israeli teenagers were butchered. Blimey, thought you must have forgotten about that.

Les, and the human shield, so 1,400 people were prepared to be human shields
I suppose when you're forced and crammed into a smaller space with no where to go, all Palestinians are human shields.

Les, look at the graph, tell me where those Palestinians who were forced out of their homes are now living?? In Gaza? Where??

[joebloggs]

Here Joe have a read of this

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...e_1948_war.htm

Then can I read your comments on it - usually you scarper when questioned

Before World War Two, Haganah had been, from the British viewpoint, a terrorist organisation that used violence to defend the Jewish Agency.

As I said both Hamas and the Israeli gov are the SAME.

I know about your fondness for Germans, and I doubt you would be so fond of them if they had invaded the UK in WW2. I think your opinions would be different if 1/4 of everyone you had ever known was dead by the end of the war; if you were lucky to survive, then be forced to learn and speak German. Oh I know what I'm talking about, my mother and father lived under the Nazi's and they knew what it was like to be forced to leave their country and everything they owned behind.

Sure, up to 6 million Jews were victims in WW2. So were 54 Million+ other people who died in it. It's like the victim becoming a bully, the Israelis will not stop land grabbing until they've taken the lot.

[raynaputi]

As I said, both Hamas and the Israeli gov are the SAME.

I know about your fondness for Germans, and I doubt you would be so fond of them if they had invaded the UK in WW2. I think your opinions would be different if 1/4 of everyone you had ever known was dead by the end of the war; if you were lucky to survive, then be forced to learn and speak German. Oh I know what I'm talking about, my mother and father lived under the Nazi's and they knew what its like to be forced to leave their country and everything they owned behind.

Sure, up to 6 million Jews were victims in WW2. So were 54 Million+ other people who died in it. It's like the victim becoming a bully, the Israelis will not stop land grabbing until they've taken the lot

That's how I see it too. They suffered the genocide in the past, and now they're basically doing the same to the Palestinians.

[les_taxi]

As I said, both Hamas and the Israeli gov are the SAME.

I know about your fondness for Germans, and I doubt you would be so fond of them if they had invaded the UK in WW2. I think your opinions would be different if 1/4 of everyone you had ever known was dead by the end of the war; if you were lucky to survive, then be forced to learn and speak German. Oh I know what I'm talking about, my mother and father lived under the Nazis and they knew what it was like to be forced to leave their country and everything they owned behind.

Sure, up to 6 million Jews were victims in WW2 So were 54 Million+ other people who died in it. It's like the victim becoming a bully, the Israelis will not stop land-grabbing until they've taken the lot

As usual, no explanation of the fact that as soon as Israel was formed, it nearly suffered obliteration at the hands of the lovely Arabs.

They have every right to defend themselves.

Yep, I admire the Germans as they have been post war - they are not our enemies.

History will go on to show the growing number of Islamic hate groups are the enemy. They are definitely not the same as the rest of us.

Just Google suicide bombers, beheading, heart eaters and you will find they are all from a certain religion.

[les_taxi]

That's how I see it too. They suffered the genocide in the past, and now they're basically doing the same to the Palestinians.

I think you don't see it clearly. If you were Israeli and your country had been attacked by lots of Arab states who's sole intention was wiping you off the face of the earth then you might feel differently.

You are surrounded by hostile countries, so are you just going to lie there and take it?

So do you not think if Hamas was bigger and stronger it would not take over Israel? Of course it would. That's ok is it?

[joebloggs]

As usual, no explanation of the fact that, as soon as Israel was formed, it nearly suffered obliteration at the hands of the lovely Arabs.

They have every right to defend themselves.

Yep, I admire the Germans as they have been post war - they are not our enemies.

History will go on to show that growing number of Islamic hate groups are the enemy. They are definitely not the same as the rest of us.

Just Google suicide bombers, beheading, heart eaters and you will find they are all from a certain religion.

What has that got to do with forcing Palestinians out of their country?

Israel was formed on which countries land, Les?

Also, the British government considered them terrorists, read your link, Les

You are mixing up suicide bombers, Islamic hate and all your other rants with the facts that Palestinians have been forced off their land for the last 60 years and it's still going on

[joebloggs]

I think you don't see it clearly,if you were Israeli and you country had been attacked by lots of Arab states who's sole intention was wiping you off the face of the earth then you might feel differently.
You are surrounded by hostile countries so you, just going to lie there and take it?
So do you not think if Hamas was bigger and stronger it would not take over Israel-of course it would-that's ok is it?

its you who doesn't see clearly Les, what country Les? they don't have a country, its Palestine, show me a map from before 1947 Les with Israel on the map, you cant

so you would have no problem with your parents or grand parents living in Palestine then one day they are forced out of their homes and its now called Israel ? you OK with that?

its nothing to do with hamas or anything else, its down to people being forced off their land, and for the last 60yrs that's what has been happening

Gazza is a strip 25 miles long and 3 miles wide that's

tell me les, go and look at a map, has the size of Israel increased since it was formed in 1946? simple question , if so by how much ?

[les_taxi]

Israel was formed on which countries land Les ?

No definitive proof whose it was originally. The Jews have claimed it was theirs

Not mixing up anything - just pointing out that all the Islamic rulers want is Islamic Law to rule the world and that is a known fact.

New video footage appears to show Palestinian children in summer camps run by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) being taught that “Jews are the Wolf,” and that they will one day conquer Israeli cities by force

Palestinian kids taught to hate Israel in UN-funded camps, says it all.

[joebloggs]

Map Les, 100 AD

You can even trace it back further Sure, boundaries have changed everywhere over thousands of years, but soon there will be little left.

[les_taxi]

Well, we will never know for certain who was first there - it can't be proved. Anyway I have made my argument and I'm sticking to it. Time to leave this one as we are never going to agree in a million years.

[raynaputi]

I think you don't see it clearly. If you were Israeli and your country had been attacked by lots of Arab states whose sole intention was wiping you off the face of the earth then you might feel differently.

You are surrounded by hostile countries so are you, just going to lie there and take it?

So do you not think if Hamas was bigger and stronger it would not take over Israel? Of course it would. That's ok is it?

If you know the Philippines' history, you will see that my Filipino ancestors did exactly what Palestinians are doing now, well, not throwing rockets - as they weren't available in those times

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Philippines).

When the Spaniards conquered Philippines hundreds of years ago and claimed our country as theirs and tried converting them (the Filipinos) to Catholics (hence majority are now), you will probably also think that Filipinos who belong to the resistance during those times are the terrorists people refer today. The most famous resistance group that time in the Philippines was called Katipunan, headed by Andres Bonifacio, which can be equalled to Hamas if you want to put it that way in this issue

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan).

[jonjo]

It's time for me to leave this racist site and to report it to the proper authorities with photographic evidence for what it really is.

[les_taxi]

It's time for me to leave this racist site and to report it to the proper authorities with photographic evidence for what it really is.

You clearly lack the intelligence to discern a debate from a free speaking country.

[jonjo]

That from a man who spends all day on this site speaking total racist sh#te with others - and evenings on Filipino dating sites - and wonders why he can't find anyone.

[les_taxi]

That from a man who spends all day on this site speaking total racist sh#te with others - and evenings on Filipino dating sites - and wonders why he can't find anyone.

Ooh - want to get personal? Be my guest. I have a woman at the moment so don't need dating sites pal.

[jonjo]

If I ever move to the UK with my immigrant wife (Filipina) I hope I don't EVER have to move in next to somebody like you.

[les_taxi]

You probably wouldn't pass the Life in UK Test - it requires intelligence

Definition of Racism:

Discriminating against someone for their skin colour is racist, and unfair because it's not something they can help, and has no bearing on anything to do with the qualities of that person.

A person's religion, however, is an opinion, and we do discriminate and ostracize people if their opinions are socially unacceptable. If you hated white supremacists are you a racist? No, you're not judging them on colour - you are judging them on their opinions. Islam isn't a race its a shared opinion.

The "racism" card is played when they wish to silence legitimate criticism of the more extremist views.

[jonjo]

Whatever. You and others on here know what you really are. You should be proud of yourselves.

[les_taxi]

It's funny how you judge me so easily - I had a Muslim girlfriend for a short while

Today, I picked up a black guy in his mid 20s and we had a great conversation. I asked if I could pose a few questions to him and he was great.

He told me about growing up in Crystal Palace and we discussed the nonsense about calling blackboards whiteboards so as not to offend. How one of the Councils instructed its staff not to ask for black coffee as it may offend (ask for coffee without milk, etc)

He laughed his head off and says as if it would offend him.
Lovely bloke - I don't judge anyone by skin colour. But by barmy religions - yes I do, and that's not Racist pal.

[jonjo]

So you had a black guy in your cab today and spoke to him. So that makes you not a racist. I rest my case, goodnight Les.

[les_taxi]

Let's put it to the test. If anyone thinks I am a genuine racist, please say so - I don't ask for any favours just because I have been on the forum and made friends.

I speak my mind - I'm not always right, but I won't hold back on subjects I feel strongly about.

I do feel a bit guilty when it may annoy a few on here that we're always talking politics and religion, but it's so reflected in the news these days, it's hard to get away with not observing and reacting to the world around us.

So please, if anyone thinks I'm a racist please say so. I would not be offended, as in the whole scheme of things it doesn't really matter what I think

[les_taxi]

So you had a black guy in your cab today and spoke to him. So that makes you not a racist. I rest my case, goodnight Les.

If I was a racist he would not have got through the door

[jonjo]

I'm glad I wasn't your Muslim girlfriend. I would have been afraid to sleep. I don't need to take the UK test as I was born there, but maybe someone close to you will one day (though I think not if they read this forum) So good luck to you mate because, speaking as someone with low intelligence, I think you might need it.

[les_taxi]

I'm glad you were not my Muslim girlfriend as you would have been a ladyboy

Low intelligence? I will take you on - on any subject - with no use of Google allowed

You don't even know the definition of Racism, so you have already shown, you're not up to a decent conversation

[jonjo]

Look back on your shameful racist posts, Les and grow up.

Sometimes it's better to just admit what you are in life and move on. (Intelligence?) Les, you're a taxi driver not a rocket scientist.

[joebloggs]

If you know the Philippines' history, you will see that my Filipino ancestors did exactly what Palestinians are doing now, well not throwing rockets as they weren't available in those times

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Philippines).

When the Spaniards conquered Philippines hundreds of years ago and claimed our country as theirs and tried converting them (the Filipinos) to Catholics (hence majority are now), you will probably also think that Filipinos who belong to the resistance during those times are the terrorists people refer today. The most famous resistance group that time in the Philippines was called Katipunan, headed by Andres Bonifacio, which can be equaled to Hamas if you want to put it that way in this issue

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan).

Lithuania was only freed from the Russians and the Germans btw WW1 and WW2. Its population suffered a lot

four days between June 14 and June 18 of 1941 alone some 40 000 people from educated families were exiled to Siberia and Soviet labour camps (almost half of them 16 year old or younger, 556 infants under 1 year, families typically separated), most never to return alive. Others were arrested with many later tortured and massacred in places like Rainiai and Cherven.

http://www.truelithuania.com/topics/...y-of-lithuania

Rainiai Massacre

According to the coroner's examination after the exhumation, both the report and the testimonies of witnesses, concurred that the Soviets cut off tongues, ears, genitals, scalps, put genitals into mouths, picked out eyes, pulled off fingernails, made belts of victims' skins to tie their hands, burned them with torches and acid, crushed bones and skulls, all done while the prisoners were still alive

Savages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainiai_massacre

And these were not Muslims who did this, Les.

[les_taxi]

Les, you're a taxi driver not a rocket scientist

What is your reasoning behind that comment? Have you not heard the saying, "if you want to know something ask a Taxi driver"!

Any idea what I did before Jonjo?

You're very assumptuous

You still don't know the meaning of racism I give up! You are not worth discussing things with. I see after nearly a year you have not got even one reputation comment. Wonder why?

[les_taxi]

I will not comment on this thread any more for the sake of Forum Harmony.

Everyone has an opinion, but it has turned into a slanging match which I have got sucked into.

No point in carrying on with this subject.
No hard feelings on my part.

[Arthur Little]

... let's "call it quits", and put an end to this discussion!

[fred]

... let's "call it quits", and put an end to this discussion!

Agreed Arthur!
Closed.