Quote Originally Posted by Pete/London View Post
The government has constantly used statistics for their own political ends and until recently denied the true immigration figures. they use net migration figures for their argument, despite the fact that most people leaving the country were white British taken their wealth with them to start a new life abroad where they are not allowed to be a drain on their chosen country's welfare system.

Whereas the migrants coming here had virtually nothing, were able to make use of our health service without contribution, thus straining the system so that the British were put on waiting lists that were constantly growing. They have put a strain on our housing stock creating shortages and massive property price rises that make it difficult for British children to have much hope of ever getting a place of their own.

I dont remember saying who had the highest birth rates, only the % of Muslim births in the population.

It had been documented many times in the press that a good estimate of the illegal immigrant population is around 3 million, I cant prove it, then you cant prove that its not either, because our useless politicians have lost control of the country. I can only use my eyes in the area of London I have lived for almost 68 years, Waltham Forest, capital of Londonistan.
You're talking about the gov's interpretation of figures, the stats I've posted are from the ONS. The fact is, the gov doesn't know how many people are here because they don't keep a record of who comes in or leaves

Most non Europeans who recently came to the UK would have needed to secure a work permit first - and are not allowed to claim benefits - or they came on the highly skilled migrant program where they would have needed a minimum of a Master's degree. Again, they are not able to claim benefits until they have ILR. The majority of both came to work and not to claim benefits

Now, if your talking about Europeans coming to the UK that's a different matter.

That's rubbish about 3m, scare stories from the rightwing press, the gov estimates it's a lot less than 1m. They don't know for the reasons I've just posted, but an estimate of 1m has been used by a number of groups.

I'll tell you why it's not 3m, it's estimated up to 1m Poles came to the UK. At work, we have 2 Poles working there, my child-minder minds a Polish kid. There are 3 or 4 Polish shops near me, I hear Polish spoken by school kids near me. Polish people living near me. Yet if you believe there are 3m illegals here, I take it you mean mostly from Africa, India and Pakistan I would be seeing more of these people, 3 * the number of Poles I see, yet i don't, so where are these 3m hiding ???