Alan Henning killed by IS

[joebloggs]

https://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&r...76943099,d.cGE

As reported by The Sun, members of his aid convoy pleaded with his kidnappers, telling them he was a dedicated charity worker.

However, the brutal terrorists refused to release him and insisted he was a spy.

The masked terrorist with a London accent warned he would be next in the gruesome video which showed the killing of aid worker David Haines.

It is now thought that the ISIS militants were tipped off by corrupt officials before they kidnapped Mr Henning.

A source told The Sun: “The group were held up at the border with Turkey for two hours over supposed problems with their paperwork — which could suggest they were being deliberately delayed while IS were told of their presence in Syria.

So there is no evidence, just thoughts and 'which could suggest'

You suggest his friends had tipped them off. Looks like they did all they could to stop them taking him

It's not the first time he had been. I think this was his 3rd trip

[joebloggs]

The problem is extremism is always born in moderate religion first. You have extreme Muslims and moderate Muslims the same as you have extreme Christians and moderate Christians.

My argument would be that without the initial introduction to "normal" moderate religion extremism wouldn't be born in the first place.

People who practice "moderate religion" still do have a part to play in extremism. Yes they can say "well they went to our place of worship but then they fell into the wrong crowd and now they are an extremist and nothing to do with us"

That's the equivalent of handing a kid a firework and then saying "how we we supposed to know he was going to light it and throw it at someone, it's not our fault!".

The bottom line is if religion did not exist there would be no rallying cry in a certain religion's name to carry out horrific acts. Something all religions are guilty of at some point in time.

I don't know the forum rules on posting about religion so I am keeping my statement brief in the hope I'm not breaking the rules.

-Dan.

Well it's a good thing that more people now say they are of no religion in the UK

Between 2001 and 2011 there has been a decrease in people who identify as Christian (from 71.7 per cent to 59.3 per cent) and an increase in those reporting no religion (from 14.8 per cent to 25.1 per cent). There were increases in the other main religious group categories, with the number of Muslims increasing the most (from 3.0 per cent to 4.8 per cent).

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census...-religion.html

[KeithD]

I often wonder how long Joe and Les have been married?

[les_taxi]

Me and Joe just have a civil partnership lol

[grahamw48]

The problem is extremism is always born in moderate religion first. You have extreme Muslims and moderate Muslims the same as you have extreme Christians and moderate Christians.

My argument would be that without the initial introduction to "normal" moderate religion extremism wouldn't be born in the first place.

People who practice "moderate religion" still do have a part to play in extremism. Yes they can say "well they went to our place of worship but then they fell into the wrong crowd and now they are an extremist and nothing to do with us"

That's the equivalent of handing a kid a firework and then saying "how we we supposed to know he was going to light it and throw it at someone, it's not our fault!".

The bottom line is if religion did not exist there would be no rallying cry in a certain religion's name to carry out horrific acts. Something all religions are guilty of at some point in time.

I don't know the forum rules on posting about religion so I am keeping my statement brief in the hope I'm not breaking the rules.

-Dan.

Good post sir !

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[Ako Si Jamie]

Multiculturalism isn't the problem. Religion and mass immigration is.

[nitrox]

Well it's a good thing that more people now say they are of no religion in the UK

Absolutely!

[les_taxi]

People who are westernised are different again. My local filling station has a Sikh and he is mint. I have a right laugh with him. He says he pulled a bird whilst out on the piss. I have a laugh with him and asked if I pulled his turban right fast would he spin round! Great guy, the side of multiculturalism that works with me.

[andy222]

Me and Joe just have a civil partnership lol

I thought you had high standards Joe. I have to admit I haven't come across a Sikh who does not integrate. The ones I have met are very friendly.

[SimonH]

I thought you had high standards Joe. I have to admit I haven't come across a Sikh who does not integrate. The ones I have met are very friendly.

Careful Les, Andy's getting jealous!

[Ako Si Jamie]

I thought you had high standards Joe.. I have to admit I havnt come across a sikh who does not intergrate the ones I have met are very friendly.

Very true. Sikhs find it easier to integrate because they have a love of pubs too hehe

[andy222]

Your wife must have thought have that one up, Simon. A bit quick for you.

[Arthur Little]

Very true. Sikhs find it easier to integrate because they have a love of pubs too hehe

Do they? Well ... ... I didn't know that!

[les_taxi]

They integrate - and boy, look at the difference!

[Ako Si Jamie]

Do they? Well ... ... I didn't know that!

Yeah, they're on our level when it comes to boozing .Plus they like their football and obviously cricket and ruby murrays so they blend in well. They even own pubs too which is an ideal place to go if you like a curry and a pint at the same time while watching the footy.

[KeithD]

If we use those Brits who appear on the Jeremy Kyle Show as a snapshot of the general population, we need all the immigrant help we can get.

[grahamw48]

Yeah, they're on our level when it comes to boozing .Plus they like their football and obviously cricket and ruby murrays so they blend in well. They even own pubs too which is an ideal place to go if you like a curry and a pint at the same time while watching the footy.

You won't be permitted to marry one though

[les_taxi]

Curry, football, beer and women - is there anything I have missed off?

[Pete/London]

Curry, football, beer and women - is there anything I have missed off?

They're not too keen on Muslims

[fred]

Curry, football, beer and women - is there anything I have missed off?

Yes. You got the list order wrong.

[Michael Parnham]

If we use those Brits who appear on the Jeremy Kyle Show as a snapshot of the general population, we need all the immigrant help we can get.

All those Brits on Jeremy Kyle show ought to made to go in the army and use that wasted energy in Syria against Isis!

[les_taxi]

Yes. You got the list order wrong.

How could I have done that Beer,football,Curry and women

[fred]

How could I have done that Beer,football,Curry and women

Now your talking!!

[Ako Si Jamie]

You won't be permitted to marry one though

The girl I was with before I met Maria is from a Sikh background but like you Graham, she is an atheist hehe.

And if we had decided to get married, nobody would have stopped us.

[Ako Si Jamie]

How could I have done that Beer,football,Curry and women

One of my old haunts even had a PC on the bar to surf the net, so you can add this forum to that list, Les.

[les_taxi]

The forum is so addictive!

Especially when you have opposing points of view which is commonplace, ha ha

[grahamw48]

The girl I was with before I met Maria is from a Sikh background but like you Graham, she is an atheist hehe.

And if we had decided to get married, nobody would have stopped us.

Though as I'm sure you are aware, that would have been very much the exception, as arranged marriages are still the norm in Sikh communities. Indeed girls have been killed for going against tradition.

[KeithD]

I used to play Hide and Sikh

[Arthur Little]

I used to play Hide and Sikh

... until you got "Sikh" of it, in t'urban areas of Liverpool?

[Ako Si Jamie]

If we use those Brits who appear on the Jeremy Kyle Show as a snapshot of the general population, we need all the immigrant help we can get.

Should be renamed The Rocky Horror Show