UK told to pay more into Europe

[les_taxi]

Labour used to have a far bigger lead. It's come down. We will see a Conservative surge as the economy continues to improve (like it has again today)

People will be reminded how shocking Labour were last time out.

Putting all that to one side, no one has faith in Milliband and Balls. They are a massive liability.

[andy222]

Labour used to have a far bigger lead. It's come down. We will see a Conservative surge as the Economy continues to improve (like it has again today)

People will be reminded how shocking Labour were last time out.

Putting all that to one side, no one has faith in Milliband and Balls. They are a massive liability.

It's against the law to drink and drive Les.

[joebloggs]

Labour used to have a far bigger lead. It's come down. We will see a Conservative surge as the Economy continues to improve (like it has again today)

People will be reminded how shocking Labour were last time out.

Putting all that to one side, no one has faith in Milliband and Balls. They are a massive liability.

You said exactly the same thing in April. Where is this SURGE, Les ?????

[les_taxi]

I will give up the booze when you accept the bet challenge. You are adamant it's going to be a Labour victory so take the bet. Or do you follow the Ed Balls School of Economics?

Get your bet on!

[andy222]

No need to Les.

[les_taxi]

Can't believe you would turn down money from a non-Labour supporter. Unless of course you don't truly believe it will happen.

That would be crazy Andy !

[andy222]

It's easy Les, it's called self discipline. But you should know that by now Les, losing £100 to Tiger.

And by not taking a bet it winds people up.

[joebloggs]

George Osborne failed to tell David Cameron about EU bill

The Chancellor did not inform the Prime Minister about an "appalling" £1.7 billion bill levied by the European Union despite knowing about it for days

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...t-EU-bill.html

[andy222]

To be honest Jamie, I work in Birmingham and it would be a wasted vote. Most parts of Birmingham will stay Labour because of the ethnic minority vote. But it's your choice mate .

[Ako Si Jamie]

To be honest Jamie, I work in Birmingham and it would be a wasted vote. Most parts of Birmingham will stay Labour because of the ethnic minority vote. But it's your choice mate .

Even some of those are fed up with the influx of Eastern Europeans etc.

[Michael Parnham]

To be honest Jamie, I work in Birmingham and it would be a wasted vote. Most parts of Birmingham will stay Labour because of the ethnic minority vote. But it's your choice mate

Every vote counts!

[les_taxi]

No, I was correct, I said the lead would shrink, and it has. Next year will see the gap get less.

Andy, you are using a cop out - not fooling me. You dare not take the bet because - despite being sure Labour WILL get in - you won't take easy money.

I believed Man Utd would finish top 4 so I backed it up and paid when wrong.

As Biff would say to Mcfly, you're CHICKEN

[les_taxi]

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 23nd Oct - Con 34%, Lab 34%, LD 6%, UKIP 15%; APP -21

[fred]

[imagine]

That's fine, Europe but first take your own trash back

[Michael Parnham]

That's fine, Europe but first take your own trash back

I fully agree, best suggestion yet!

[SimonH]

No problem with that Joe. The problem I have is that £2M gets you not a lot in London and those foreigners that have forked out £100M for property have already paid 15% in stamp duty.

[johncar54]

Mansion Tax etc:-

Those with the biggest houses are likely to be the highest earners, so highest income tax payers, and pay the highest band council tax. Overall they are more likely to be an asset to the area. Just by having the largest house they will probably employ people, cleaners, gardeners, drivers, etc. They will also have hi-tech burglary protection, sprinklers, private medical insurance, send their children to fee paying school, etc., so, as I said, an asset to the area. Paying out and taking almost nothing back.

However, the poorest people (probably unthinking Labour voters) will probably claim all the benefits available, so will be the biggest drain on the services, paid for by those paying the highest taxes (more likely to be Conservative voters).

Just a thought.

But as I no longer have a vote in UK, just the ‘privilege’ of paying tax on my Crown Pension, I don’t have any say.

[fred]

Mansion tax etc:-

Those with the biggest houses are likely to be the highest earners, so highest income tax payers, and pay the highest band council tax. Overall they are more likely to be an asset to the area. Just by having the largest house they will probably employ people, cleaners, gardeners, drivers, etc. They will also have hi tech burglary protection, sprinklers , private medical insurance, send their children to fee paying school, etc. so as I said an asset to the area. Paying out and taking almost nothing back.

However, the poorest people (probably unthinking labour voters) will probably claim all the benefits available, so will be the biggest drain on the services, paid for by those paying the highest taxes (more likely to be conservative voters).

Just a thought.

But as I no longer have a vote in UK, just the ‘privilege’ of paying tax on my Crown Pension, I don’t have any say.

Exactly how it is ..Well said..
Mind you, as millionaires they will probably end up moving away at some point and employ local people and pay far less taxes in another country where it doesn't rain as much!

[KeithD]

Cameron will have no problem paying the £1.7B, he'll just take it off the poor and disabled.

[johncar54]

Cameron will have no problem paying the £1.7B, he'll just take it off the poor and disabled.

Maybe he would if he could, but it just occurred to me, the poor and the disabled don't pay tax.

My mother was one such when she became an OAP. She paid no tax, got top-up benefits, sufficient to live a reasonable, whilst not luxurious, life. And she, brought up in an orphanage, having started work as a scullery maid and the domestic, eventually becoming a vegetable chef in a restaurant in a commercial building, voted Tory all her life.

[SimonH]

Cameron will have no problem paying the £1.7B, he'll just take it off the poor and disabled.

Easy solution........vote Labour

They get in, the Economy will go down the pan and then we can get a rebate

[SimonH]

Maybe he could have lunch with Blair and ask his opinion, no one else wants to


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ony-Blair.html

[KeithD]

Of course they pay tax. Everything has tax on it.

[johncar54]

Of course they pay tax. Everything has tax on it

But if they use all or in part benefit money they are hardly the ones paying the indirect tax, unlike a person who not on benefits, who is paying all the indirect tax with their already taxed income .

[andy222]

Not enough though Jamie. You only have to take a look at the councilors to see which way the vote will go.

[andy222]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-EU-exit.html

I will just post this as I know Ded won't. It's from his Tory rag. What a mess and Osborne didn't even tell Cameron.

[fred]

Farage on Friday: 'The British taxpayers are the real losers' after new EU cash demand

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...EU-cash-demand

[johncar54]

I just had a look at income tax. Never having been in the top bands I had not realised that those earning over £120,000 p.a. appear to get no personal allowance, thus pay tax on all their income..

Simon's point:-

That being so, the mates drinking beer, means that one pays say £3 to £4 a pint and the other £4.35 to £5.80 i.e. 45% more, and that applies to everything they buy.

[joebloggs]

I just had a look at income tax. Never having been in the top bands I had not realised that those earning over £120,000 p.a. appear to get no personal allowance, thus pay tax on all their income..

Simon's point:-

That being so, the mates drinking beer, means that one pays say £3 to £4 a pint and the other £4.35 to £5.80 i.e. 45% more, and that applies to everything they buy.

Back to the real world, everyone - that includes the poorest to the richest - needs a certain amount of money to live off to pay for utils, food, clothes etc,

Rich or poor, most of what you buy or bills you need to pay, are not linked to your income.

As for the rich, I wonder how many pay cash to employees, how many have accountants so they pay £0 or as little tax as possible ??

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...er-tax-2055838