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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Nothing wrong with working 15 hours or more, up to retiring Joe. I used to set off for work at 5 am and most days not get home until 10pm and never got paid extra, that was the job and it had to be done. There are many people in this world who do work very long hours just to serve the public and they get no rewards for their work and the public never see or realise that these people even exist!
    Do you think some employers exploit their workers ? I don't know who you worked for but were they well off ? Did you work more hours than your contract stated ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    I don't know who you worked for but were they well off ?
    I y well hope so, most people start and run companies to earn a decent living


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    I y well hope so, most people start and run companies to earn a decent living
    Yes, some by getting their workers to work extra hours for nothing and paying them below the minimum wage. Pity the workers don't get a decent living standard, I'm alright Jack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Yes, some by getting their workers to work extra hours for nothing and paying them below the minimum wage. Pity the workers don't get a decent living standard, I'm alright Jack!
    The relevant word being 'some' not 'all' Unfortunately Joe, that's life. There're good guys and bad guys - that will never change!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    The relevant word being 'some' not 'all' Unfortunately Joe, that's life. There're good guys and bad guys, that will never change!
    So you agree there must be employers out there who exploit their workers! Of course there are good ones who pay them a fair wage for a fair day's work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    So you agree there must be employers out there who exploit their workers! Of course there are good ones who pay them a fair wage for a fair days work

    Nothing not to agree with Joe, there are holes in every walk of life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Nothing not to agree with Joe, there are holes in every walk of life
    Then you can understand why some places have unions. And for your information, I've never been a union member nor a member of any political party
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Do you think some employers exploit their workers ? I don't know who you worked for but were they well off ? Did you work more hours than your contract stated ?
    Not interested whether my employer was well off or not, never had a contract in my life Joe!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Not interested whether my employer was well off or not, never had a contract in my life Joe!
    Michael you sound like a decent guy, and i've had a few jobs in my time to know that some employers will exploit you if they can , a fair days pay for a fair days work i'm sure you agree with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Michael you sound like a decent guy, and I've had a few jobs in my time to know that some employers will exploit you if they can , a fair days pay for a fair days work i'm sure you agree with that
    Joe, I was happy in my job whilst doing the practical side of the job from 1960 up until 1980 but was almost happy from 1980 up until retirement whilst learning and doing the management side of the job, I suppose in a way I was exploited most of my working life but having said that I was grateful for having a job. Pay rises were the thing we never received, so in order to get a pay rise most people in the same job as I was used to change companies about every five years, luckily it was an industry that was always looking for workers and staff!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    I suppose in a way I was exploited most of my working life but having said that I was grateful for having a job. Pay rises were the thing we never received, so in order to get a pay rise most people in the same job as I was used to change companies about every five years, luckily it was an industry that was always looking for workers and staff!

    Sure, the world doesn't owe anyone a living, but as I've said you should be paid a decent wage for a decent days work.

    It's still like that today, I know someone who has not had a wage rise in 14yrs, the only increase in their wage was due to changes in tax and the increase in the minimum wage.

    Don't you think that's a pretty employer, when they don't increase your wage after working there for years ? And due to inflation, you've have less money to spend each year, many people get a increase annually.

    People will tell you any job is better than no job, it probably is but that doesn't stop people being exploited by employers
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