applying for IRL Visa

[winner]

Hi everyone,

This is edesa wife of winner just wanna have some advice about applying for IRL visa. Me and my husband in love and happy especially cos will going to have a baby soon with God's love.I give up my partime job cos i'm pregnant cos i'm always feel being sick, my spouse visa run out on 2009. We are renting a room at the moment. I recieve letters from the doctor and the only bill we had for evidence is the rent. My husband wage is enough to look after me and our new coming baby. We went to council cos were we live now is not suitable for baby and we're waiting now a letter from the council to have an interview. I know i cannot claim funds on the visa i have now but the baby will be born here and become a british citizen and my husband is a british, can my husband claim for our baby's fund? Thanks.....God bless

edesa

[LadyJ]

If your husband is low income he should apply for Working Tax Credit, Housing and Council Tax Benefit - this will help your husband to pay rent to your house/flat etc.

How many weeks are you pregnant now? Because if your husband is entitled or in received of Working Tax Credit he can claim a Sure Start Maternity Grant.

You said, you gave your work up just because you felt sick? Does your GP knows you are pregnant? You should get an advice to your GP or Midwife about your pregnancy, this is free!

Your husband is automatically entitled to claim a Child Benefit from the day your child was born.

And as I said above, If your hubby is low income then tell him to claim Working Tax Credit, once he received this benefit he can then claim a Sure Start Maternity Grant (£500 Grant per child), and once your child was born he can claim a Child Tax Credit.

Your husband must be the claimant and he must put your details down on every benefit he is claiming...and this is won't affect your ILR application in the future.

Tell your husband to use this calculator to help him work out his entitlement to benefits and tax credits.

>http://www.entitledto.co.uk/default....8-c14106caba3d

He must act ASAP or he will lose his benefits!

[joebloggs]

so right ladyj

time for your husband to start claiming and getting some of those visa fees back

don't forget to download and read the set (m) form about what type of letters you can use for evidence, child benefit and tax creds letters are good ones, as they will have both your names on.

[winner]

thanks ladyj,

yes been to the GP already and by the way thanks a lot for your advice..may God bless you...

edesa

[winner]

hi thanks joebloggs, God bless and take care.....


edesa

[ginapeterb]

What is this

Tell your husband to use this calculator to help him work out his entitlement to benefits and tax credits.

Why not be positive and say this !

Tell your husband to get out there and find a better job that pays better, and then he can take care of you in a manner that is appropriate....and pay his income tax like the rest of us do.

I really get sick of hearing comments like

How many weeks are you pregnant now? Because if your husband is entitled or in received of Working Tax Credit he can claim a Sure Start Maternity Grant.

or

He must act ASAP or he will lose his benefits!

The United Kingdom is not a something for nothing society, please don't encourage people to think that way, benefits come from central government money which in turn is levied from tax payers.

I am a high rate tax payer and I object to this advice being given on a public forum, there are no benefits for people like me, only tax tax tax...

Honestly, it gets right up my nose...when I think how hard my wife and I have to work to get by, and how much tax we pay between us,
My poor Filipino wife came to this country 2.5 years ago, from the minute she arrived she has been working and paying her income tax, even though she is not entitled to public funds, so many others i know are like her also here at this forum.
BROWNS SCOTTISH SOCIALIST BENEFIT BRITAIN...GEEEEZE it makes my blood boil

[ginapeterb]

so right ladyj

time for your husband to start claiming and getting some of those visa fees back

don't forget to download and read the set (m) form about what type of letters you can use for evidence, child benefit and tax creds letters are good ones, as they will have both your names on.

What for, her visa does not run out until 2009, what's the emergency ? she is still in 24 months temporary resident stage, and whats that comment Joe you made there ?

time for your husband to start claiming and getting some of those visa fees back

Why should he...he pays like the rest of us, there are no free lunches out there, I wish people would understand that...

[ginapeterb]

OMG what is this ?????????


£500.00 is that what they get ????

And where do you think that comes from...yes you got it....
MUGS LIKE ME !

I know i cannot claim funds on the visa i have now but the baby will be born here and become a british citizen and my husband is a british, can my husband claim for our baby's fund?

Can someone enlighten me as to what this baby fund is ? cos the poor suckers who are tax payers will have to pay for it, i would just like to know what it is as when my children were growing up, we didn't have it, but then again, my child pays income tax on his income and it costs him £1000.00 a year to insure himself against getting injured in Afghanistan..my children were brought up from birth to make their way in the world, not rely on parents, carve out a future, and get on their bike and go for it..so we never did bother with finding out about special baby funds...back then you purchased your own baby buggy, scrimped and saved for your clothes, got Gran to knit for you, and you made do with what you had...now its baby funds, and free this and that....disgraceful...

[winner]

hi ginapeterb just like to say to you i've been a very high tax payer for the last 20 years i had a industrial injury a few years back thats y i had to take a big drop in wages i can not understand [word removed - this is a public forum - Rob] like you to say things like that this first time i will be claiming so get your head out your butt i am born and breed english man so y not take some think back what i've paid in for years and years nice if you reply

winner

[joebloggs]

oh i thought the rightwing was in hiding


so whats the point of a tax creds, and child benefit if no one claims it !, if you are ENTITLED to claim it, its up to you if you claim it, like it or not, its the way it is..

and pete if you want child benefit, and tax creds, you know what you need to do then !!

and err pete, her husband pays income tax just like you ! and err me, and like everyone else !!!, and i didn't moan for the 20+years i've paid income tax, and soon as my wife gets a full time job, i will still not be moaning when we're NOT ENTITLED to claim it and she paying loads of tax.. we will be happy to pay it, and be grateful we will be earning enough to live off without having to claim it .. and know some of the tax we pay goes to help those who need help ,.... and pete thank god or who ever your not one of them..

as for the visa fees, i've paid £2,300 in less than a year, err, thats ok with you is it ? well then, i dont see why i should pay at all, just as you don't want anyone to claim benefits !

and as for the maternity grant, i think your wrong, i'm sure in the past Social services, if you were on benefits could help you buy things for your baby when it was born.

[winner]

hi ginapeterb me again best thing you can do is stand on the white cliffs of dover and start preaching maybe all the immigrants turn back winner

[joebloggs]

oh winner I forgot to congrat you and your wife

best wishes to you all

[gWaPito]

What is this




Why not be positive and say this !

Tell your husband to get out there and find a better job that pays better, and then he can take care of you in a manner that is appropriate....and pay his income tax like the rest of us do.

I really get sick of hearing comments like

or



The United Kingdom is not a something for nothing society, please don't encourage people to think that way, benefits come from central government money which in turn is levied from tax payers.

I am a high rate tax payer and I object to this advice being given on a public forum, there are no benefits for people like me, only tax tax tax...

Honestly, it gets right up my nose...when I think how hard my wife and I have to work to get by, and how much tax we pay between us,
My poor Filipino wife came to this country 2.5 years ago, from the minute she arrived she has been working and paying her income tax, even though she is not entitled to public funds, so many others i know are like her also here at this forum.
BROWNS SCOTTISH SOCIALIST BENEFIT BRITAIN...GEEEEZE it makes my blood boil

I second your opinion. To many lazy people out there, much work for everybody if they really want it

[LadyJ]

Pete,

I'm sorry if my advice made you upset..but you made me quite upset too.
You should have told to us your opinion in a nice way, I think its unfair you talked to me/us like that way.

I think we all knowthat most of the member here are non-professional about these Immigration or benefits etc. and we know that we are just trying to help one another.

I wouldn't advice people to claim benefits if I think they are not entitled to and we all know aswell that before we brought our love ones here in UK we proved to the British Embassy Manila that we can live here without help from the public funds.

So If you don't want them to claim benefits or tax credits? where do you think public funds should go to?

[LadyJ]

Can someone enlighten me as to what this baby fund is ? cos the poor suckers who are tax payers will have to pay for it,

Well I think everyone pays tax like you do Pete!

If you are upset because you are in a higher income and can't claim benefits or tax back then I think that's your problem, you should moan to the HM Revenue & Custom and not to us.

[/QUOTE=LadyJ;44183]Pete,

I'm sorry if my advice made you upset..but you made me quite upset too.
You should have told to us your opinion in a nice way, I think its unfair you talked to me/us like that way.[/QUOTE]

If that's how you treat people who you think their advice is not sounds good to you, then I'm outta here.

[joebloggs]

oh ladyj, petes no lady , i wouldn't let anything anyone says upset you on here, it's a 'FREE' country , well free speech anyway, you've got a right to say what you like, its not petes forum, its scousers keiths, and as long as you don't him, which is pretty hard to do, your ok

tax,tax,tax is something i pay and we all pay, but i don't cry about it , everyone is against those who claim benefits and could work, but the benefits which we are talking about are to help bring a child up, have you any idea pete, what it cost for child care ???, yes my wife works to, shes never claimed any benefits, and oh they even refused her maternity pay, that same child will oneday will be working and paying tax while your sick or retired. so as long as users on here ask for any advice, and i can help, i'll post that advice wether others like it or not :rolleye:, they'll just have to deal with it...

thatchers britain - i'm al'right jack - she stole from everyone, and gave to the rich...

[eljean]

how many weeks till you have that 500 from the day you apply for the grant?

[ginapeterb]

hi ginapeterb just like to say to you i've been a very high tax payer for the last 20 years i had a industrial injury a few years back thats y i had to take a big drop in wages i can not understand dick heads like you to say things like that this first time i will be claiming so get your head out your butt i am born and breed english man so y not take some think back what i've paid in for years and years nice if you reply

winner

Winner, put a name to your nickname, mine is Pete what is yours ? stop hiding behind it.

Secondly, paying income tax does not give anyone the right to assume they can get it back in the form of benefits.

And thirdly, we tend to refrain from using the language you have used on this forum, such as calling me a dick head, firstly I find that bastos, and secondly, my reponse was not to your post, but to someone else's whose advice I found to be negative.

I was not aware of your circumstances, since you did not make the original post, it appears your wife did, I appreciate and understand you have also paid income tax, good for you, however, was it wise to have your wife asking for that kind of advice on a public forum, when you have already indicated that you are english born and bred, if that is the case, you yourself are fully aware of your rights and entitlements, such as maternity benefits and other state benefits.

You will have to forgive me for being outspoken on this issue, I am not familiar with state benefits, since I have never had to claim them, its is foreign and alien to me.

My views have always been very clear, perhaps that is what makes one or two of my posts here at this forum controversial, I don't mince my words, that is true, some people here will support my stance, others will not, that as Joe Blogs has rather brashly pointed out, free speech, you are entitled to your views, whether this is the 1st claim you have made in 20 years, does not interest me in individual cases, I am merely stating my opinion on the general policy of turning to the welfare state for assistance, so please do not seek to suggest I am personalizing this issue.

I am surprised winner (as you call yourself) that you chose to call me a ********, and "to get it out of my ass". I do hope you are man enough to send me a personal apology, since it is not the language I would have used when addressing you, especially as you are a stranger, and not someone known to me.

I will answer the other posts now...I await your private apology.



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[ginapeterb]

Well I think everyone pays tax like you do Pete!

If you are upset because you are in a higher income and can't claim benefits or tax back then I think that's your problem, you should moan to the HM Revenue & Custom and not to us.

[/QUOTE=LadyJ;44183]Pete,

I'm sorry if my advice made you upset..but you made me quite upset too.
You should have told to us your opinion in a nice way, I think its unfair you talked to me/us like that way.

If that's how you treat people who you think their advice is not sounds good to you, then I'm outta here.[/QUOTE]

LadyJ ? that is a ridiculous statement to make, of course everyone does not pay income tax, people on Income support and housing benefit does not pay income tax.

Why should I moan to HM Customs and Revenue, I am not seeking to claim benefits, secondly your assertion is that I am moaning to you, why would you suppose that I am ? have I asked you for anything ? of course I did not, I am expressing my views on a sensitive and political issue in our country, by the way are you a registered voter ? are you a resident or a citizen ? if so, then the debate might interest you ?

How could I have told you my opinion in a nice way, is there a nice way to say I don't agree with the welfare state as it exists in my country, how could I put that over to you in a nice way.

The fact of the matter is, there is no nice way to put it, or should I resort to what they do in the Philippines to resolve political differences, just to have my opponents killed, as in extra judicial killings, no I don't think that is the way forward, let us stick to harmless debating of our viewpoints, in that way, nobody gets topped, and everyone gets a say.

And please don't presume to threaten me with the fact that you may leave the forum, your'e free to come and go as you please, no one holds you here, they certainly don't hold me here, I spend countless hours giving immigration advice, here and by private e mail for hours on end, I do it out of interest and because i care about others who have difficulties in getting through the entry clearance process, just because someone disagreed with your advice, (If I had a dollar for everyone who did not agree with me, I would have left years ago)

Stand the course LadyJ and get in the debate, instead of threatening to go at the first sign of an opposing view.

Your a typical Filipino, cant take any kind of confrontation...welcome to the real world.

[ginapeterb]

Hi Joe,

I sent you a personal message to answer your posts directly.

I won't presume to get into a flaming spiral with you on this forum, for the reasons I stated in my message.

[ginapeterb]

how many weeks till you have that 500 from the day you apply for the grant?

Lovely baby eljean cute mo cute mo...

Pete Bennett mod
best wishes.

[ginapeterb]

hi ginapeterb me again best thing you can do is stand on the white cliffs of dover and start preaching maybe all the immigrants turn back winner

Is this the usual level of your debating acumen, your sad pal ! ....and by the way i am still waiting for your apology for the name you called me.

[eljean]

Lovely baby eljean cute mo cute mo...

Pete Bennett mod
best wishes.

thanks for the compliment kuya pete!
cutey baby like mommy
who know's you might be having a cute baby too!someday...then you can have 500 quid as well

[ginapeterb]

hahaha thanks eljean, but I am sure I wont get it, I think for me and Gin Gin, we don't think about it anymore, there was a time when I thought, well should we or should we not....

But as time has gone by, we seem to be loving life as it is, I know there might be a time when we think, ohhhhh would it not be nice to have a little one playing in the house, you think like that sometimes, but then again, my children grew up so long ago, I think being a Dad again would be titilating for me, as the baby's brothers would protect her, especially if its a little girl, hmmm would they ever.

But as for now, I must just have to miss out on that carrot that is being dangled of the £500.00, anyway, I Hope you get yours Eljean, take care, and your baby is so beautiful, congratulations.

[gWaPito]

Is this the usual level of your debating acumen, your sad pal ! ....and by the way i am still waiting for your apology for the name you called me.

Hi Pete,
We have never chatted before I would like to say WELL DONE! for saying what you said. I would say you spoke the words what many members where thinking but never had the courage to say. Im so sorry what 'winner' called you, I thought all messages are checked out before they are released? don't lose any sleep over it.
Regards Mark

[eljean]

hahaha thanks eljean, but I am sure I wont get it, I think for me and Gin Gin, we don't think about it anymore, there was a time when I thought, well should we or should we not....

But as time has gone by, we seem to be loving life as it is, I know there might be a time when we think, ohhhhh would it not be nice to have a little one playing in the house, you think like that sometimes, but then again, my children grew up so long ago, I think being a Dad again would be titilating for me, as the baby's brothers would protect her, especially if its a little girl, hmmm would they ever.

But as for now, I must just have to miss out on that carrot that is being dangled of the £500.00, anyway, I Hope you get yours Eljean, take care, and your baby is so beautiful, congratulations.

as the saying goes its better to give than to receive so maybe that why you are blessed becoz you pay more taxes

well anyways...just as what has been said that there might some people who will agree and some will disagree,some will say bad and some will say good but as long as everyone knows how to reconcilewe would live all together harmoniously

[ginapeterb]

Mark

I am grateful for your kind support on these issues, sometimes I am prepared to say what sometimes needs to be said, actually if Winner read the original post, he would have noted that I was not actually against his right as a British citizen to make a claim for his entitlement, as I understand the guy had been injured industrially, that would have meant his capacity to work etc would have been severely restricted, on that basis of course I am sympathetic to his requirements, and would not begrudge him receiving anything he is entitled to.

What seemed to set me off, was the advice given by LadyJ, who has yet to come back and tell us what her status is here in the UK.

The advice offered by JoeBloggs also seems to be brash and flippant and ill-advised such as

time for your husband to start claiming and getting some of those visa fees back

I am not sure why this advice was given, it appears from his posts that he somehow resents having to pay visa fees, hmmmm we all do, but the fact of the matter is, they have to be paid, even if we think that they are a rip off, which if he had stated as such, he may found that many of us would sympathise with his viewpoint.

Sadly Mark with the amount of messages on this forum, its not possible to moderate every message that is posted, personally since you mention it, I am surprised by the amount of ping-pong replies that have found there way on to this forum over the last couple of months I have been on it, some people seem to think its a instant messaging client, rather than an asynchronous bulletin board.

But once again Its good to know that I am not the only member oft this forum who shares my view, I suspect as you have said, there are many more, who may be reluctant to give their view especially as they may wish to refrain from being chat bombed by the language that Winner used in his remarks against me.

I will take your advice, and not loose too much sleep over it, once again thanks for your support, and by the way, welcome to the forum.

[ginapeterb]

Eljean, you kind of brought a smile to my face when I read this:

as the saying goes its better to give than to receive so maybe that why you are blessed becoz you pay more taxes

I had to think of something to pacify my outbursts today, you have said it all kapitid na babae...can you tell that to HM Customs and Revenue..

Best wishes Eljean..thanks for that comment.

[ervenescence]

Hi Edesa, winners wife.

I don't have much knowledge about benifits and taxes but if you really wanted to have a proper answer with regards to this issue. Try this site http://www.ukresident.com/ You can raise your querries there, the site has got forum as well which members have similar issues with you.

btw, congratulations for being preggy

[gWaPito]

Thanks for the welcome Pete
Ive been a member here since July3rd2007. I ve not made manys posts in that time but my wife (cryingbaby) has.
I to can be 'out spoken' this is why I dont make many posts.
I made a post yesterday and it was met with a negative reply. All I was doing, like all of us, is giving our view points and what we experence.
Having said that this forum has been a great help to gemma and I, we made good friends in Edinburgh who we will visit in the new year and been given good advice. Like Gemma told me, this is an open forum for anybody and if I dont like what I read don't react!! Today was too much, and Gemma is not here to take the PC from me!! hehehehe
Oh yes, I dont consider myself rightwing but I agree with your viewpoint, I voted for a thatcher goverment twice, for me they were the best years if you wanted to get on in life But that is my viewpoint and not gospel